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The Hegseth "incident."

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  • Darth PutinD Offline
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    Darth Putin
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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #84

      Joni Ernst is a "nope."

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #85

        He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

          George KG Offline
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          @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

          He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

          I agree - though maybe over the weekend.

          Although I found the allegations against him to be a bit dodgy - especially the "rape"accusation - his qualifications always seemed to be a bit on the thin side.

          Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            #87

            Give him a vote.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • George KG George K

              @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

              He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

              I agree - though maybe over the weekend.

              Although I found the allegations against him to be a bit dodgy - especially the "rape"accusation - his qualifications always seemed to be a bit on the thin side.

              Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

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              @George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

              Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

              The reality is he was chosen because of his celebrity more than his combat experience. After all, there are thousands of people with that. And doing Fox stuff definitely doesn't prepare anybody for running a government department.

              I was only joking

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                I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military and list ls multiple ways to fix those inadequacies. Those books are very highly regarded among retired military officers.

                It’s a mistake to dismiss him out of hand as being a celebrity pick. Quite frankly, the weekend cohost of Fox & Friends is hardly great celebrity. The guy is a serious military pedagogue.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military and list ls multiple ways to fix those inadequacies. Those books are very highly regarded among retired military officers.

                  It’s a mistake to dismiss him out of hand as being a celebrity pick. Quite frankly, the weekend cohost of Fox & Friends is hardly great celebrity. The guy is a serious military pedagogue.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                  I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military

                  Forgotten? I was unaware.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    I forget nothing. I know little.

                    I was only joking

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                      The media will focus on the women in combat, removal of trans soldiers, firing the woke generals, etc…

                      They aren’t talking about the ideas of completely revamping the promotion structure of the military. The new education programs for training officers, etc… They also are ignoring his take on the very nature of the purpose of the military.

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Give him a vote.

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                        #93

                        @Jolly

                        Give him a vote.

                        I dont think that President Trump would want that.

                        WIthdraw is better than a "no" vote for him.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          Washington Post yesterday:

                          Such awards were issued somewhat liberally throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, experts say. Awardees of the meritorious service medal are predominantly military officers like Hegseth, data provided by the military shows. While many officers have risked their lives on the battlefield, the majority of fighting and exposure to danger is performed by the enlisted troops they command.

                          Ah...wait, he DID serve in combat the explain.

                          Hegseth also received a Combat Infantryman Badge, which is awarded when infantry soldiers and officers engage an enemy in combat.

                          For the Washington Post in 2018 a Bronze Star was something to be mentioned, a lot. And they don't comment that it was issued "liberally."

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                            I was only joking

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                              Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                              George KG Offline
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                              Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                              If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5024462-blumenthal-republican-senators-hegseth/?email=467cb6399cb7df64551775e431052b43a775c749&emaila=12a6d4d069cd56cfddaa391c24eb7042&emailb=054528e7403871c79f668e49dd3c44b1ec00c7f611bf9388f76bb2324d6ca5f3&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12.05.24. — Defense %26 National Security

                                From Sen. Blumenthal

                                “The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”

                                “I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.

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                                  https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5024462-blumenthal-republican-senators-hegseth/?email=467cb6399cb7df64551775e431052b43a775c749&emaila=12a6d4d069cd56cfddaa391c24eb7042&emailb=054528e7403871c79f668e49dd3c44b1ec00c7f611bf9388f76bb2324d6ca5f3&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12.05.24. — Defense %26 National Security

                                  From Sen. Blumenthal

                                  “The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”

                                  “I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.

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                                  @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                  Sen. Blumenthal

                                  The guy who pretended to be a VietNam vet....

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                    Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                    If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

                                    Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    @George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                    Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                    If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

                                    Let's hope he doesn't get taken prisoner. Trump hates that.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Time for introspection...

                                      The military industrial arms business is a trillion dollar business. The Defense Department is ripe with inefficiencies and crony politics. Money flows through the system in a torrent and nobody even tries to account for the individual drops. Corporations and individuals are getting filthy rich.

                                      So ask yourself...Why the concerted push to kill the nomination?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Because he’s obviously unqualified and a bit of a tool.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Because he’s obviously unqualified and a bit of a tool.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          Because he’s obviously unqualified and a bit of a tool.

                                          Because he may have problems, but there's a hatchet job going on. All the won't go on the record sources scream it.

                                          Why?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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