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The Hegseth "incident."

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Re her post, the reasons he shouldn’t be SecDef have nothing to do with the DoD, and everything to do with Pete Hegseth.

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    @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

    Re her post, the reasons he shouldn’t be SecDef have nothing to do with the DoD, and everything to do with Pete Hegseth.

    No, she says that because of unproven allegations, that's disqualifying.

    As was posted above, Tower might have been a womanizer, but we would have gotten someone who could run the DoD. He would have been competent.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Oh - I also listened to the first part of Megyn Kelly's interview with him.

      About the NDA - he claims that her attorneys approached him at a time when his career was taking off and they threatened to expose this affair unless he paid up.

      There was a lot of "Jesus is my savior" thrown in too. I gave up after about 15 minutes.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        I wasn’t summarizing her post, I was disagreeing with it.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Maybe they should put him in charge of Veteran Affairs.

          So many punchlines, so little time.

          I was only joking

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            #82

            In 2023, over 29,000 active-duty troops were sexually assaulted

            One about every 20 minutes, about 12% of active duty women each year

            At that rate, it would take about 8 years to assault them all.

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              • George KG Offline
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                Joni Ernst is a "nope."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

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                    @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

                    I agree - though maybe over the weekend.

                    Although I found the allegations against him to be a bit dodgy - especially the "rape"accusation - his qualifications always seemed to be a bit on the thin side.

                    Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      #87

                      Give him a vote.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG George K

                        @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

                        I agree - though maybe over the weekend.

                        Although I found the allegations against him to be a bit dodgy - especially the "rape"accusation - his qualifications always seemed to be a bit on the thin side.

                        Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

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                        @George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

                        The reality is he was chosen because of his celebrity more than his combat experience. After all, there are thousands of people with that. And doing Fox stuff definitely doesn't prepare anybody for running a government department.

                        I was only joking

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                          I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military and list ls multiple ways to fix those inadequacies. Those books are very highly regarded among retired military officers.

                          It’s a mistake to dismiss him out of hand as being a celebrity pick. Quite frankly, the weekend cohost of Fox & Friends is hardly great celebrity. The guy is a serious military pedagogue.

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military and list ls multiple ways to fix those inadequacies. Those books are very highly regarded among retired military officers.

                            It’s a mistake to dismiss him out of hand as being a celebrity pick. Quite frankly, the weekend cohost of Fox & Friends is hardly great celebrity. The guy is a serious military pedagogue.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military

                            Forgotten? I was unaware.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              I forget nothing. I know little.

                              I was only joking

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                                The media will focus on the women in combat, removal of trans soldiers, firing the woke generals, etc…

                                They aren’t talking about the ideas of completely revamping the promotion structure of the military. The new education programs for training officers, etc… They also are ignoring his take on the very nature of the purpose of the military.

                                The Brad

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Give him a vote.

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                                  #93

                                  @Jolly

                                  Give him a vote.

                                  I dont think that President Trump would want that.

                                  WIthdraw is better than a "no" vote for him.

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                                    Washington Post yesterday:

                                    Such awards were issued somewhat liberally throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, experts say. Awardees of the meritorious service medal are predominantly military officers like Hegseth, data provided by the military shows. While many officers have risked their lives on the battlefield, the majority of fighting and exposure to danger is performed by the enlisted troops they command.

                                    Ah...wait, he DID serve in combat the explain.

                                    Hegseth also received a Combat Infantryman Badge, which is awarded when infantry soldiers and officers engage an enemy in combat.

                                    For the Washington Post in 2018 a Bronze Star was something to be mentioned, a lot. And they don't comment that it was issued "liberally."

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                        Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                        If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5024462-blumenthal-republican-senators-hegseth/?email=467cb6399cb7df64551775e431052b43a775c749&emaila=12a6d4d069cd56cfddaa391c24eb7042&emailb=054528e7403871c79f668e49dd3c44b1ec00c7f611bf9388f76bb2324d6ca5f3&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12.05.24. — Defense %26 National Security

                                          From Sen. Blumenthal

                                          “The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”

                                          “I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.

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