The Hegseth "incident."
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Look at you, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Look at you, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Of whom do I have low expectations? I made a claim to the psychologies of those who hate Trump, and how that should make them more impressed with his win. That claim isn't based on expectations, it's based on what those people say.
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@jon-nyc you’re trying to quantify the rhetorical. Did DJT overcome 2 impeachments, multiple felony indictments and an almost conviction of 36 counts, a civil sexual assault litigation, and being labeled an insurrectionist and literal Hitler because he’s so incredible? Or did people elect him because they thought the alternative was even worse?
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Regarding the Sec. of Defense - still not sure why people with TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome) think he is a qualified candidate? (regardless of "well, so and so was Secretary and had no qualifications")
In any normal organization, picking someone from his level and trying to make him CEO would be laughed at.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Trump’s win was the 44th biggest electoral college victory out of the 60 we’ve had.
And in 2016, his margin of victory (in electoral votes) was greater than Biden's in 2020 (77 vs 74) , and only 7 less than JFK (77 vs 84). Looks like 2024 will be the more than JFK.
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@Horace said in The Hegseth "incident.":
I only learned this election that electoral vote numbers per state, change every year.
Not every year, every census.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Regarding the Sec. of Defense - still not sure why people with TDS (Trump Deification Syndrome) think he is a qualified candidate? (regardless of "well, so and so was Secretary and had no qualifications")
In any normal organization, picking someone from his level and trying to make him CEO would be laughed at.
In any normal organization, you're not choosing from an incestual talent pool.
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@Jolly I agree with you.
But I think if Senators looked at this with ration, it would be much better. Tell the President to be that this candidate just is not qualfied. Dont make us reject him.
(yes yes yes yes, both sides are guilty. If VP Harris won, and she nominated a Sec. of Defense with the same qualifications, all the Dem senators would be talking about how great he was.)
At some point, putting blind loyalty in front of good of the country is not a good thing.
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@George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":(in electoral votes)...
Not a valid comparator over time as the number of total EVs has increased.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@Jolly I agree with you.
But I think if Senators looked at this with ration, it would be much better. Tell the President to be that this candidate just is not qualfied. Dont make us reject him.
(yes yes yes yes, both sides are guilty. If VP Harris won, and she nominated a Sec. of Defense with the same qualifications, all the Dem senators would be talking about how great he was.)
At some point, putting blind loyalty in front of good of the country is not a good thing.
Corporations are judged by easily quantifiable measures of success. There is no such measuring stick for government organizations, and that fact complicates the selection process of the employees at every level, including the top. We can say that a bad CEO will be bad for the corporate profits. What can we actually say about a "bad secretary of defense"? Some hand waving about geopolitical stuff that armchair generals have lots of opinions about?
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@Horace Part of the problem is that most government appointed positions like the one we are talking about force the leader to be very short term focused because they know they are gone after just a few years and really have no accountability for their actions.
"Oh, I did this and it resulted in this immediate positive impact" Even though in five years it is a major problem and the initial thing never should have been done.
Good CEO's have the ability to think longer term. (Yes, they are also watching the stock price on a day to day basis........ LOL)
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@taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@Horace Part of the problem is that most government appointed positions like the one we are talking about force the leader to be very short term focused because they know they are gone after just a few years and really have no accountability for their actions.
"Oh, I did this and it resulted in this immediate positive impact" Even though in five years it is a major problem and the initial thing never should have been done.
Good CEO's have the ability to think longer term. (Yes, they are also watching the stock price on a day to day basis........ LOL)
The U.S. military is not a corporation. Any sane corporation would have cut its expenses and fed Taiwan to the Chinese Dragon a long time ago.
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":(in electoral votes)...
Not a valid comparator over time as the number of total EVs has increased.
Are you saying that Biden‘s margin of victory in 2020 should be discounted?
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In that list he’s 20th out of 26. Still 76th percentile.
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@George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":(in electoral votes)...
Not a valid comparator over time as the number of total EVs has increased.
Are you saying that Biden‘s margin of victory in 2020 should be discounted?
Seems like a whattaboutism fail.
I never mentioned anything about ‘discounts’. I merely used his 75% performance as counter evidence that his opponent party ‘collapsed’. That just doesn’t apply in such an historically narrow victory. I wouldn’t say the GOP collapsed in 2020 either. Or the Dems in 2000, etc.