Could Anything Have Been Done Different?
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 19:31 last edited by
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 20:29 last edited by
"Bitter-clingers" to "Deplorable" to "Garbage." might have been a poor way to endear yourself with the electorate.
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@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
From the Democrat side that is.
You're kidding, right?
wrote on 7 Nov 2024, 01:36 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
From the Democrat side that is.
You're kidding, right?
Not sure what you mean? (But I was not kidding)
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A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 19:51 last edited by@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
I don’t think 25 year old black and Hispanic men voted Trump over unrealized capital gains.
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@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
I don’t think 25 year old black and Hispanic men voted Trump over unrealized capital gains.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 20:09 last edited by Jolly 11 Aug 2024, 20:12@LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
I don’t think 25 year old black and Hispanic men voted Trump over unrealized capital gains.
Tell you what did move the needle...One of Trump's most effective ads addressed the transgender issue, especially with guys on girl's teams and taxpayer funded transitions. It moved the needle 3% or more on every group it was tested on.
The ad:
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 20:41 last edited by
I think the tag line of Kamala being for they/them, Trump is there for you…
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wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 20:46 last edited by
The focus on everyone having to cater to a tiny and arguably delusional minority did not sit well with voters.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 15:41 last edited by
So does anybody really think that things would have had different results if Biden would have withdrawn before the primary season or if another candidate would have been named? Once the polls with their built in error was showing Trump at 48%, it was really over, in hindsight.
Again, there were no undecided voters choosing who, they were undecided on if.
$7 butter.
All of the new job growth going to migrant labor
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/job-gains-are-going-to-immigrants-and-keeping-young-us-born-men-out-of-the-workforce/ar-BB1ieibIBeing told this was normal:
While arresting parents and calling parents at school board meetings terrorists.
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/3aeb27a24b457570ef79af3241c7100aAn administration that wouldn't firmly and fully embrace their only ally in the Middle East, tacitly took on an antisemitic stance and quietly emboldened terror organizations, while losing the support of one of their staunchest voting blocks/donors, etc... And they still pissed off the Muslim community.
What could have gone differently? Absolutely nothing as the Democrat party has finally and completely gone over the cliff into insanity. They are morally and intellectually bankrupt, and can no longer apply reason and thought to the issues concerning this nation and instead focus on the "feels" and emotions.
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So does anybody really think that things would have had different results if Biden would have withdrawn before the primary season or if another candidate would have been named? Once the polls with their built in error was showing Trump at 48%, it was really over, in hindsight.
Again, there were no undecided voters choosing who, they were undecided on if.
$7 butter.
All of the new job growth going to migrant labor
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/job-gains-are-going-to-immigrants-and-keeping-young-us-born-men-out-of-the-workforce/ar-BB1ieibIBeing told this was normal:
While arresting parents and calling parents at school board meetings terrorists.
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/3aeb27a24b457570ef79af3241c7100aAn administration that wouldn't firmly and fully embrace their only ally in the Middle East, tacitly took on an antisemitic stance and quietly emboldened terror organizations, while losing the support of one of their staunchest voting blocks/donors, etc... And they still pissed off the Muslim community.
What could have gone differently? Absolutely nothing as the Democrat party has finally and completely gone over the cliff into insanity. They are morally and intellectually bankrupt, and can no longer apply reason and thought to the issues concerning this nation and instead focus on the "feels" and emotions.
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 18:14 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
So does anybody really think that things would have had different results if Biden would have withdrawn before the primary season or if another candidate would have been named? Once the polls with their built in error was showing Trump at 48%, it was really over, in hindsight.
Again, there were no undecided voters choosing who, they were undecided on if.
$7 butter.
They could have crafted a narrative of doing something different from the current administration. They chose "more of same" messaging instead. I don't buy any notion that this election was a done deal months ago.
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wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 03:09 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 09:21 last edited by
Interesting graph. One of President Trumps main campaign items in 2016 and 2020 was how much better he would be in controlling the border. Hmmmm, doesnt seem that way.....
Of course, in 2024, the bar is set so low, that it will be difficult not to clear. LOL
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Interesting graph. One of President Trumps main campaign items in 2016 and 2020 was how much better he would be in controlling the border. Hmmmm, doesnt seem that way.....
Of course, in 2024, the bar is set so low, that it will be difficult not to clear. LOL
wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 13:11 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Hmmmm, doesnt seem that way..
With the exception of 2019, he did as well as anyone in the 7 years before him.
A bit of a longer timeframe:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Apprehensions and expulsions registered by the United States Border Patrol from the 1990 fiscal year to the 2023 fiscal year
More here:
https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/
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@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Hmmmm, doesnt seem that way..
With the exception of 2019, he did as well as anyone in the 7 years before him.
A bit of a longer timeframe:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/
Apprehensions and expulsions registered by the United States Border Patrol from the 1990 fiscal year to the 2023 fiscal year
More here:
https://usafacts.org/articles/what-can-the-data-tell-us-about-unauthorized-immigration/
wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 13:41 last edited by@George-K I dont disagree. But, based on what he campaigns, he basically said he shut down the border.
The reality is that (and I did not do the math) it appears that President Obama average rate of illegals from 2013-2016 was lower than the average illegals under President Trump from 2017-2020
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wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 17:11 last edited by
Depression.
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
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Depression.
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 19:38 last edited by@Jolly said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
The economy under the Biden administration is GREAT, that’s why so many people want to come here under the Biden administration.
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@Jolly said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
The economy under the Biden administration is GREAT, that’s why so many people want to come here under the Biden administration.
wrote on 10 Nov 2024, 20:20 last edited by@Axtremus said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
@Jolly said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
The economy under the Biden administration is GREAT, that’s why so many people want to come here under the Biden administration.
I guess you're one of those people out to prove two plus two does not equal four.
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Depression.
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
wrote on 11 Nov 2024, 02:29 last edited by@Jolly said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Depression.
People don't tend to want to come to your country during an economic depression.
GDP
2013. 2.12
2014. 2.52
2015. 2.95
2016. 1.82. (AVG = 2.20). Obama 2nd term
2017. 2.46
2018. 2.97
2019. 2.47
2020. -2.21. (AVG = 1.42). Trump term -
wrote on 11 Nov 2024, 02:41 last edited by
Okay, you're right and 72M Americans are wrong.
Next...
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wrote on 11 Nov 2024, 02:47 last edited by
Do you disagree that total overall illegal border crossings during the first term of President Trump were higher than the last four years of President Obama?
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Do you disagree that total overall illegal border crossings during the first term of President Trump were higher than the last four years of President Obama?
wrote on 11 Nov 2024, 02:51 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Do you disagree that total overall illegal border crossings during the first term of President Trump were higher than the last four years of President Obama?
I agree that total observed border crossings were somewhat higher, yes. But those stats are observed. The number of border patrol agents were higher and the number of possible entry points were lower..
