Could Anything Have Been Done Different?
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:33 last edited by
From the Democrat side that is.
Was VP Harris just such a bad candidate that the Democrats was doomed from the start?
(I think that everyone here pretty much thought she was a bad candidate from the beginning. Pats ourselves on the back)
What campaign changes could have been done? (Other than not having her as candidate)
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:35 last edited by
OMG. Everything they did from 2016 on.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:37 last edited by
@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:37 last edited by
Harris had no chance. They tried her out for 2020 and she crashed an burned. Negative charisma. Her best chance would have been Donald Trump doing something negative to himself.... though he seems immune to that.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:39 last edited by Horace 11 Jun 2024, 16:00
I don't think talking to Oprah about joy or having Beyonce and JLo stump for her meant anything, but there was nothing better they could have replaced that stuff with. I don't think Tim "weirdo" Walz calling the other side "weird" was a good look, but it will always be fascinating how giddily the Dems took to that messaging for those few weeks. (Disliking "weird" is typical conservative psychology, and the whole "weird" episode was strong evidence that the center left is home to middle aged and older cultural conservatives. Which makes perfect sense, since center left has been the dominant cultural attitude for their whole lives.) I think not picking Shapiro was strictly to keep herself from looking weak and stupid by comparison. But I don't think Shapiro would have won this election for her.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:42 last edited by
Did Biden sink them on purpose? I think so…
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Harris had no chance. They tried her out for 2020 and she crashed an burned. Negative charisma. Her best chance would have been Donald Trump doing something negative to himself.... though he seems immune to that.
wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:56 last edited by@xenon said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Harris had no chance. They tried her out for 2020 and she crashed an burned. Negative charisma. Her best chance would have been Donald Trump doing something negative to himself.... though he seems immune to that.
They used to opine about Reagan being the teflon president. He was a piker in comparison. Trump is, for whatever you may think of him, one tough mofo.
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Did Biden sink them on purpose? I think so…
wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 15:56 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Did Biden sink them on purpose? I think so…
Couldn't say as I'd blame him.
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From the Democrat side that is.
Was VP Harris just such a bad candidate that the Democrats was doomed from the start?
(I think that everyone here pretty much thought she was a bad candidate from the beginning. Pats ourselves on the back)
What campaign changes could have been done? (Other than not having her as candidate)
wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 16:19 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
From the Democrat side that is.
You're kidding, right?
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 16:31 last edited by
Frankly, it’s kind of bothersome that the win wasn’t bigger
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 16:33 last edited by
counties shifting red or blue as compared to 2020:
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 16:58 last edited by
Biden the day after midterm elections could have announced it’s time to hand the reins over to a new generation. Maybe, just maybe, a proper primary would have produced a better candidate.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 17:29 last edited by
At least an elected, not appointed, one.
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Biden the day after midterm elections could have announced it’s time to hand the reins over to a new generation. Maybe, just maybe, a proper primary would have produced a better candidate.
wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 17:32 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
Biden the day after midterm elections could have announced it’s time to hand the reins over to a new generation. Maybe, just maybe, a proper primary would have produced a better candidate.
That’s assuming there was actually a better candidate available. A non-heavy liberal does not make it out of an honest and open democrat primary. The DNC had to intervene in 2016, 2020, and 2024 would have been no different. Remember that Harris was the olive branch given to Warren and all of the other more radical branch of the party to keep Bernie from getting the nomination.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 17:33 last edited by
@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
At least an elected, not appointed, one.
Right… Just like the freely selected and non manipulated primaries of 2016 and 2020 … Wink…
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 19:31 last edited by
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
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wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 20:29 last edited by
"Bitter-clingers" to "Deplorable" to "Garbage." might have been a poor way to endear yourself with the electorate.
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@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
From the Democrat side that is.
You're kidding, right?
wrote on 7 Nov 2024, 01:36 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
@taiwan_girl said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
From the Democrat side that is.
You're kidding, right?
Not sure what you mean? (But I was not kidding)
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A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 19:51 last edited by@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
I don’t think 25 year old black and Hispanic men voted Trump over unrealized capital gains.
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@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
I don’t think 25 year old black and Hispanic men voted Trump over unrealized capital gains.
wrote on 8 Nov 2024, 20:09 last edited by Jolly 11 Aug 2024, 20:12@LuFins-Dad said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
@Mik said in Could Anything Have Been Done Different?:
A good start would have been not sending up trial balloons for taxing unrealized capital gains.
I don’t think 25 year old black and Hispanic men voted Trump over unrealized capital gains.
Tell you what did move the needle...One of Trump's most effective ads addressed the transgender issue, especially with guys on girl's teams and taxpayer funded transitions. It moved the needle 3% or more on every group it was tested on.
The ad:
Link to video