TDS is so strong
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@Horace said in TDS is so strong:
impact will be greatest in the people who hate him.
And those who have their businesses burned to the ground by those who hate him.
@Copper said in TDS is so strong:
@Horace said in TDS is so strong:
impact will be greatest in the people who hate him.
And those who have their businesses burned to the ground by those who hate him.
The best way to make sure that hate has no home in a commercial building, is to burn it down. Nothing can live in an incinerated building - including hate.
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TDS is very strong. It's weird. Maybe my apathy is too much, but I sometimes look around and wonder why so many people pin their personal value to voting for someone they'll never meet and likely someone that will have no impact on their life.
@89th said in TDS is so strong:
TDS is very strong. It's weird. Maybe my apathy is too much, but I sometimes look around and wonder why so many people pin their personal value to voting for someone they'll never meet and likely someone that will have no impact on their life.
Not so much that, but there is this belief that if "my" candidate wins, unicorns will run down the street passing out roses. But if "your" candidate wins, the world (yes, the world, not only the US) will stop to exist. One of the great things about the US is that there are enough check and balance to keep things kind of in the middle.
We have 250 years of history to show that this is not true.
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Agreed. In terms of very scientific statistics that cannot be disputed, I would say a good 95% of people voting aren't significantly impacted by who wins.
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Agreed. In terms of very scientific statistics that cannot be disputed, I would say a good 95% of people voting aren't significantly impacted by who wins.
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Agreed. In terms of very scientific statistics that cannot be disputed, I would say a good 95% of people voting aren't significantly impacted by who wins.
@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Agreed. In terms of very scientific statistics that cannot be disputed, I would say a good 95% of people voting aren't significantly impacted by who wins.
DEI.
Gender Fluidity in Children
Third semester abortion.
Prison for religious objection.
Tax hike.You voted for Kamala. You tell me...Would paying more taxes affect you? Maybe the school putting your little girl on puberty blockers, rendering her incapable of ever having children, might affect you. Being passed over for a job or gig because of a less talented person of the "right" gender or color...Would that affect you?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
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Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
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2012: 1.2 million votes
2016: 4.4 million votes (3.3% of all votes)
2020: 1.9 million votesIt's not much but in elections so close, there is a big collection of voters who could help play Kingmaker if the parties decided to provide better candidates. I suppose the opposite is true, Trump brings out more than 2 million extra voters by himself so perhaps it doesn't matter that much.
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Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
I know. But by not voting for Trump in a binary election, you did add to Kamala's votes.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
I know. But by not voting for Trump in a binary election, you did add to Kamala's votes.
@Jolly said in TDS is so strong:
@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
I know. But by not voting for Trump in a binary election, you did add to Kamala's votes.
@89th is non-binary…
Seriously, Jolly? That’s a bullshit argument. Isaac has a voice, he used that voice. He is well versed in the issues and he made a different determination than you. That’s not only allowed, but you should celebrate it. That’s what living in a Democratic Republic is about.
The Brad
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@Jolly said in TDS is so strong:
@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
I know. But by not voting for Trump in a binary election, you did add to Kamala's votes.
@89th is non-binary…
Seriously, Jolly? That’s a bullshit argument. Isaac has a voice, he used that voice. He is well versed in the issues and he made a different determination than you. That’s not only allowed, but you should celebrate it. That’s what living in a Democratic Republic is about.
@LuFins-Dad said in TDS is so strong:
@Jolly said in TDS is so strong:
@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Not really. And I didn't vote for Kamala. I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
I know. But by not voting for Trump in a binary election, you did add to Kamala's votes.
@89th is non-binary…
Seriously, Jolly? That’s a bullshit argument. Isaac has a voice, he used that voice. He is well versed in the issues and he made a different determination than you. That’s not only allowed, but you should celebrate it. That’s what living in a Democratic Republic is about.
Not BS at all. We don't have a parliamentary system, whereby small factions can weird power through coalitions with other factions.
We have a two-party system. Anything else is window dressing and balm for the soul.
Now, why vote for Trump in a deep blue state? Last poll I saw for Minnesota was Harris +8. But...Both candidates are striving for two goals: A. A win in the electoral college, and B. A win of the popular vote. The first delivers the Presidency. The second can deliver a mandate.
That's why the third party vote is a throw-away vote.
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It’s a vote. You don’t like it? So what?
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Altogether, I should think that considering your assumption that 89th voted for Kamala, that you would consider a 3rd party vote as a win.
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Altogether, I should think that considering your assumption that 89th voted for Kamala, that you would consider a 3rd party vote as a win.
@LuFins-Dad said in TDS is so strong:
Altogether, I should think that considering your assumption that 89th voted for Kamala, that you would consider a 3rd party vote as a win.
I knew 89th voted third party the day he voted.
I still stand by my interpretation. I don't think he would vote Kamala, given his politics.
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That's why the third party vote is a throw-away vote.
Regardless, it affords the enfranchised stakeholder the right to bitch about the present and any future perceived ineptitude of either Party’s nomination choice. Winner and loser.
I don’t care whether a person lives in a Westminster Parliamentary system or republic, franchised citizens who do not make an effort to cast a ballot, have no cause or right to complain about who and how they are governed.
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@89th said in TDS is so strong:
Agreed. In terms of very scientific statistics that cannot be disputed, I would say a good 95% of people voting aren't significantly impacted by who wins.
DEI.
Gender Fluidity in Children
Third semester abortion.
Prison for religious objection.
Tax hike.You voted for Kamala. You tell me...Would paying more taxes affect you? Maybe the school putting your little girl on puberty blockers, rendering her incapable of ever having children, might affect you. Being passed over for a job or gig because of a less talented person of the "right" gender or color...Would that affect you?
@Jolly said in TDS is so strong:
DEI.
Gender Fluidity in Children
Third semester abortion.
Prison for religious objection.
Tax hike.DEI - pendulum is already swinging back. It will continue regardless of who is president
Gender Fluidity in Children - see above
Third semester abortion - Does this even happen for NON-medical emergencies? Strictly a guess on my part, but I do not see many women deciding to do an abortion for non medical reason in the third trimester. This is one of those dog whistle claims that Republicans use. (Of course, not that the Democrats are immune to doing this also)
Prison for religious objection - dont know enough to comment
Tax Hike - see tariff hike@89th said in TDS is so strong:
I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
This.
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@Jolly said in TDS is so strong:
DEI.
Gender Fluidity in Children
Third semester abortion.
Prison for religious objection.
Tax hike.DEI - pendulum is already swinging back. It will continue regardless of who is president
Gender Fluidity in Children - see above
Third semester abortion - Does this even happen for NON-medical emergencies? Strictly a guess on my part, but I do not see many women deciding to do an abortion for non medical reason in the third trimester. This is one of those dog whistle claims that Republicans use. (Of course, not that the Democrats are immune to doing this also)
Prison for religious objection - dont know enough to comment
Tax Hike - see tariff hike@89th said in TDS is so strong:
I don't think the President has that much influence over those legislative issues anyway. Votes for representatives, especially at the state and school board level, have much more of an impact, if any.
This.
@taiwan_girl said in TDS is so strong:
Third semester abortion - Does this even happen for NON-medical emergencies?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy
- Australia: As of 2015, South Australia is the only Australian state or territory to keep reliable abortion statistics. During 2012, 92% of abortions were performed before 14 weeks' gestation, 6% between 14 and 20 weeks, and 2% (n=96) at a later stage. Of the 96 abortions carried out beyond 20 weeks, 53 were due to actual or probable fetal abnormality.[25]
- Canada: During the year 2019, approximately 87% of abortions occurred by 12 weeks, with 1.17% occurring after 21 weeks.[26]
- England and Wales: In 2015, 8% of abortions occurred after 12 weeks; 0.1% occurred at or over 24 weeks.[27]
- New Zealand: In 2003, 2.03% of induced abortions were done between weeks 16 and 19, and 0.56% were done over 20 weeks.[28]
- Norway: In 2005, 2.28% of induced abortions were performed between 13 and 16 weeks, 1.24% of abortions between 17 and 20 weeks, and 0.20% over 21 weeks.[29] Between February 15, 2010, and December 1, 2011, a total number of ten abortions were performed between 22 and 24 weeks. These have been declared illegal by The Norwegian Directorate of Health. Women who seek an abortion after the 12-week time limit must apply to a special medical assessment board – called an "abortion board" (Norwegian: abortnemnd or primærnemnd) – that will determine whether or not to grant them an abortion.[30]
- Scotland: In 2005, 6.1% of abortions were done between 14 and 17 weeks, while 1.6% were performed over 18 weeks.[31]
- Sweden: In 2005, 5.6% of abortions were carried out between 12 and 17 weeks, and 0.8% at or greater than 18 weeks.[32]
- Switzerland: In 2016, 10% of abortions performed after the legal term were carried out after week 21 (a total of 36 cases).[33] Of these cases 86% were carried out due to physical problems with the child or mother.[33]
- United States: In 2003, from data collected in those areas that sufficiently reported gestational age, it was found that 6.2% of abortions were conducted between 13 and 15 weeks, 4.2% between 16 and 20 weeks, and 1.4% at or after 21 weeks.[34] In 2014, the CDC reported that 1.3% of reported abortions (5,578) were performed at 21 weeks of gestation or later.[35]
About 5,500 per years.
