Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!
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Speaking of Columbus, DNA evidence points to him being a Sephardic Jew:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko
I have never understood the American fixation on Columbus. I don’t think he ever set foot on the North American mainland on any one of his voyages. To claim his legacy as the discoverer of America or even remotely with post colonial America is a stretch.
Elbows up!
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@jon-nyc said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Is she wrong?
(I didn’t watch the video. Responding to the quote in the tweet)
She’s not wrong. But it’s like saying “let’s celebrate landing on the moon, but with it we killed lots of pilots, and that was wrong”. It’s like yeah…but that’s the cost of exploration. We should celebrate those brave enough to explore the world as it was inevitably settled/civilized.
Indigenous Peoples Day…makes no sense. The USA is not their country, they lost. They also aren’t native, everyone’s an immigrant as a result of exploration and killing those who got in your tribe’s way.
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Speaking of Columbus, DNA evidence points to him being a Sephardic Jew:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko
I have never understood the American fixation on Columbus. I don’t think he ever set foot on the North American mainland on any one of his voyages. To claim his legacy as the discoverer of America or even remotely with post colonial America is a stretch.
@Renauda said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Speaking of Columbus, DNA evidence points to him being a Sephardic Jew:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko
I have never understood the American fixation on Columbus. I don’t think he ever set foot on the North American mainland on any one of his voyages. To claim his legacy as the discoverer of America or even remotely with post colonial America is a stretch.
Agreed. It should be explorers day or something
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@jon-nyc said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Is she wrong?
(I didn’t watch the video. Responding to the quote in the tweet)
It's 90 seconds long. TL;DW? I am sure you're a busy guy, but c'mon.
As with any verbal framing outside of math equations, whether it's right or wrong is in the head of the listener. She focused on how shameful the whole settling the Americas thing was. True? If so, then by all means, the listener can go ahead and feel some shame. That's the mark of the truth of that statement. Is the listener feeling shame? Are those who feel that emotion as they reflect on this history, the best of us, or the dumbest of us? Does it say anything about them at all? So many options for so many perspectives. I'm comfortable with my own, that luxury beliefs in the form of shame at the very particular colonialization that happened at a very particular time and done by very particular cultures, are a form of special pleading, and are the province of idiots looking for an outlet for their underlying psychology of depression or cultural self-hatred or neuroticism.
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Trump said we should have a one time wealth tax to pay off the national debt.
Trump said the Iraq war was the right thing to do.
Trump said Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents we’ve ever had.
If you don’t like those principles, he has others.
By the way Biden issued statements for Columbus Day and also for Indigenous Peoples Day. Last I checked you guys attributed to Harris everything Biden did. Is that no longer operarational?
@jon-nyc said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Trump said we should have a one time wealth tax to pay off the national debt.
At the time he suggested it, it could have actually paid off a significant amount of the debt. Now? It’s laughable.
Trump said the Iraq war was the right thing to do.
Still not sure that I disagree.
Trump said Bill Clinton was one of the best presidents we’ve ever had.
That’s why he’s running on Bill Clinton’s policies
If you don’t like those principles, he has others.
Oh yeah, most definitely.
By the way Biden issued statements for Columbus Day and also for Indigenous Peoples Day. Last I checked you guys attributed to Harris everything Biden did. Is that no longer operarational?
Depends on the moment.
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The Indigenous people got their land by killing the previous Indigenous people.
Who got their land by killing the previous Indigenous people.
And so on.
Like it or not, bloodshed is pretty much how countries get land.
A president should know this.
Pretending that the previous Indigenous people are innocent is weak.
Ms. Harris is an idiot.
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The Indigenous people got their land by killing the previous Indigenous people.
Who got their land by killing the previous Indigenous people.
And so on.
Like it or not, bloodshed is pretty much how countries get land.
A president should know this.
Pretending that the previous Indigenous people are innocent is weak.
Ms. Harris is an idiot.
@Copper said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
The Indigenous people got their land by killing the previous Indigenous people
At least they were ritualistic about it.
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Uhm, there’s no such thing as indigenous people in the Americas.
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Uhm, there’s no such thing as indigenous people in the Americas.
@LuFins-Dad said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Uhm, there’s no such thing as indigenous people in the Americas.
Remember that clip from "Bury my heart...?"
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@LuFins-Dad said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Uhm, there’s no such thing as indigenous people in the Americas.
Remember that clip from "Bury my heart...?"
@George-K said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
@LuFins-Dad said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Uhm, there’s no such thing as indigenous people in the Americas.
Remember that clip from "Bury my heart...?"
Afraid not.
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@George-K said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
@LuFins-Dad said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
Uhm, there’s no such thing as indigenous people in the Americas.
Remember that clip from "Bury my heart...?"
Afraid not.
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British settlers and their descendants kill millions of native Americans - Not to worry, it's the natural order of things.
British government places a tax on tea - COLONIAL ASSPLODE!
I was only joking
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British settlers and their descendants kill millions of native Americans - Not to worry, it's the natural order of things.
British government places a tax on tea - COLONIAL ASSPLODE!
@Doctor-Phibes said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
British settlers and their descendants kill millions of native Americans - Not to worry, it's the natural order of things.
I don’t think it was so much the settlers as it was infectious disease and cheap whisky and rum.
In any case though I think the Natives tended to fair somewhat better under the French as overlords than any of the other European powers.
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By the way, I think the holiday should be called ‘Columbus Meets Indigenous Peoples Day’. Historically accurate and everybody gets a shout out.
@jon-nyc said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
By the way, I think the holiday should be called ‘Columbus Meets Indigenous Peoples Day’. Historically accurate and everybody gets a shout out.
Except for Leif Erikson. Instead of the Native American brinksmanship and in-fighting or the European slave trade, all he wanted to do in North America was get wasted.
And still he gets left out. Our values suck.
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@jon-nyc said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
By the way, I think the holiday should be called ‘Columbus Meets Indigenous Peoples Day’. Historically accurate and everybody gets a shout out.
Except for Leif Erikson. Instead of the Native American brinksmanship and in-fighting or the European slave trade, all he wanted to do in North America was get wasted.
And still he gets left out. Our values suck.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
@jon-nyc said in Indigenous People’s Day - Kamala says yes!:
By the way, I think the holiday should be called ‘Columbus Meets Indigenous Peoples Day’. Historically accurate and everybody gets a shout out.
Except for Leif Erikson. Instead of the Native American brinksmanship and in-fighting or the European slave trade, all he wanted to do in North America was get wasted.
And still he gets left out. Our values suck.
Whenever I hear the name I always think people are talking about a Scandinavian heavy metal guitarist.
I was only joking
