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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      How does this play among the Virginia citizens?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        And what Governor signed that law? Tim Kaine.

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          I don’t have the time to investigate but I’d bet he’s lying.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG Offline
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            Chat GPT...


            In 2006, then-Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia signed a law that required non-citizens to be removed from voter rolls in the state. The law mandates that if someone declares themselves a non-citizen, they must be taken off the voter list. This policy was reaffirmed and is being enforced by current Governor Glenn Youngkin. However, the Biden administration filed a lawsuit against Virginia in 2024, arguing that the process could disenfranchise voters and violates federal election laws by occurring too close to the general election. The lawsuit is focused on timing, as federal law prohibits removing voters from rolls within 90 days of an election   .

            Youngkin defended the policy, asserting that the law was designed to uphold election integrity by preventing non-citizens from voting, and emphasized that the enforcement was initiated in compliance with the law’s requirements.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              Any responsible Virginian would be familiar with this law.

              Being from out of state I'm sure Mr. Biden is simply not familiar with the law.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                The Federal Law states you can’t remove voters from the rolls within 90 Days of the Election. I suppose the counter argument is these aren’t voters being removed, it’s illegal for them to be voters, therefore the 90 days is inapplicable.

                The question is why does the Biden DoJ want to keep noncitizens on the voter rolls when they can’t vote?

                The Brad

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
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                  That’s where I think the lie is. The method probably gets a lot of baby with the bathwater.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Bad optics.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      That’s where I think the lie is. The method probably gets a lot of baby with the bathwater.

                      jon-nycJ Offline
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                      @jon-nyc said in Biden DOJ sues Virginia:

                      That’s where I think the lie is. The method probably gets a lot of baby with the bathwater.

                      Which is the point, of course.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          seems to be some significant wishcasting that this process is so messy that lots of legal voters were removed. Maybe Youngkin is that dumb and brazen, and maybe he’s doubling down publicly in the face of a lawsuit where everything will be discoverable down to the very last name removed from the rolls, and their citizenship status. Maybe he’s that dumb and brazen. Maybe he had reason to believe the citizen voters removed by this process would have voted in ways he doesn’t like. Maybe. Or maybe this was actually just a removal of a bunch of people who aren’t allowed to vote. I know where I’d put my money.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Yep. It's all about the criteria. Here it is. Looks right to me.

                            https://www.newsweek.com/thousands-non-citizen-voters-discovered-governor-1937025

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              I wonder what the Venn overlap is between people who giggle and sneer at Trump supporters who theorize about election shenanigans, and people who take seriously this theory about Youngkin engaging in election shenanigans where he intends to remove legal voters. 100% overlap? 99.9999%? Conservatively, 99.9%%

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                As I suspected, tons of false positives. There’s a good reason you don’t do this right before an election.

                                You go, DoJ.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  Without a passport or birth certificate, how do you prove citizenship?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    Those are the only two docs I’m aware of that are available to all.

                                    Honestly the federal law makes perfect sense. Sure, we need to go through exercises to keep voter rolls up to date and clean. But those processes are going to have false positives, some times a lot of them. Can’t be doing that right before an election.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      As I suspected, tons of false positives. There’s a good reason you don’t do this right before an election.

                                      You go, DoJ.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Biden DOJ sues Virginia:

                                      As I suspected, tons of false positives. There’s a good reason you don’t do this right before an election.

                                      lol "tons". Never stated was how many non-citizens were removed successfully from the rolls, through this process. Stated clearly was the process by which any mistake could be rectified, a process which was entirely legal and limited to a time frame before the election. Theories about Youngkin doing this in order to keep legal voters from voting, remain the domain of conspiracy theorist imbeciles. His motivation is clearly to clean up the rolls.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Had he done this in June I’d agree with you. Rectification takes time. Might require getting a copy of your birth certificate. 90 days is totally reasonable, youngkin broke the law and will lose.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          I think you are right about the outcome but I wonder two things. First, when did these registrants appear on the rolls, and second, how many of those end up voting.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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