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  • LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins DadL Offline
    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #65

    His facial expressions throughout the night made him look perpetually hapless, like Don Rickles’s wimpy Lutheran brother, here to nod eagerly at you instead of hurl insults.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/vance-dominates-walz-in-a-shockingly-substantive-and-polite-debate/

    The Brad

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    • George KG George K

      I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

      Hugh Hewitt:

      Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #66

      @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

      I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

      Hugh Hewitt:

      Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

      Yep, concentrate on the issue everybody knows is a loser for the GOP.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by Renauda
        #67

        I watched the whole debate. Several of the issues were the same as to what is being debated in this country. Not surprisingly, Walz is still working his last job. Don’t think it helps him. Not sure about Vance, although he strikes me as a more educated and smoother version of our little P.P., Pierre Poilievre.

        Can’t help but think though that Walz too often pulled faces that made himself look like Don Rickles. It was distracting.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #68

          He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • kluursK Offline
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            kluurs
            wrote on last edited by
            #69

            I thought Vance's smile and respectful but challenging demeanor helped him a lot in overcoming some negatives that have been tossed at him.

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            • MikM Mik

              He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #70

              @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

              He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

              GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #71

                @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                @Mik said in Walz Vance debate:

                He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.

                GY2727ibgAAkgFC.png

                LOL!

                The Brad

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                • George KG George K

                  I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                  Hugh Hewitt:

                  Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #72

                  @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                  I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                  Hugh Hewitt:

                  Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                  Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                    I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                    Hugh Hewitt:

                    Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                    Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                    LuFins DadL Offline
                    LuFins DadL Offline
                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #73

                    @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                    @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                    I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                    Hugh Hewitt:

                    Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                    Abortion > Possible nuclear war.

                    IVF for everyone after the radiation!

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #74

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #75

                        When Vance's mic was cut, he was trying to explain the use of the CBP app. Walz was wrong in his characterization of that policy.

                        The idiot moderators at CBS should have let Vance make his point and then allow Walz a short rebuttal. After all, this was a debate and the two were addressing perhaps the largest issue of the campaign.

                        No, we had to go to climate change, with O'Donnell prefacing her question with opinion stated as fact.

                        Sheesh...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #76

                          High status progressive white women and their fierce, unflinching defense of the right side of history. They were morally compelled to do what they did, and they will never make any apologies for it.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #77

                            No, they've swam in the Leftist Lake for so long, it's the only political water they recognize.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                              Hugh Hewitt:

                              Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                              George KG Offline
                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #78

                              @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                              I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                              Hugh Hewitt:

                              Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                              It was 10 minutes on abortion.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                              MikM 1 Reply Last reply
                              • George KG George K

                                @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:

                                Hugh Hewitt:

                                Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.

                                It was 10 minutes on abortion.

                                MikM Offline
                                MikM Offline
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #79

                                @George-K yes, about which nothing will be done at the federal level.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

                                  He said 140 police officers were beaten.

                                  And many later died.

                                  89th8 Offline
                                  89th8 Offline
                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #80

                                  @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  @Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

                                  Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

                                  He said 140 police officers were beaten.

                                  And many later died.

                                  Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.

                                  But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.

                                  Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.

                                  I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #81

                                    89th wrote:

                                    Kind of feel bad for Vance...

                                    He should have looked at what happened to Pence and learnt from that.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      DRINKING GAME:

                                      Strike

                                      Inflation

                                      Hurricane

                                      Border

                                      Israel

                                      Iran

                                      HoraceH Offline
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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #82

                                      @George-K said in Walz Vance debate:

                                      DRINKING GAME:

                                      Strike

                                      Inflation

                                      Hurricane

                                      Border

                                      Israel

                                      Iran

                                      Listen for politicians of all stripes to begin their sentences with “look”, downward inflected. It’s the mark of folksy honesty forthcoming and it is peppered throughout almost every trained politicians speeches.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        @Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

                                        He said 140 police officers were beaten.

                                        And many later died.

                                        Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.

                                        But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.

                                        Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.

                                        I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.

                                        HoraceH Offline
                                        HoraceH Offline
                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #83

                                        @89th said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        @Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

                                        Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

                                        He said 140 police officers were beaten.

                                        And many later died.

                                        Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.

                                        I would bet any amount of money that 140 officers beaten that day (Walz’s claim) would stand up to no scrutiny. Actually 140 officers injured would also probably stand up to no scrutiny, unless one expands the definition of “injured” beyond any recognition.

                                        Education is extremely important.

                                        89th8 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          @Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

                                          He said 140 police officers were beaten.

                                          And many later died.

                                          Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.

                                          But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.

                                          Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.

                                          I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.

                                          JollyJ Offline
                                          JollyJ Offline
                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #84

                                          @89th said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          @Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          @Horace said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:

                                          Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?

                                          He said 140 police officers were beaten.

                                          And many later died.

                                          Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.

                                          But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.

                                          Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.

                                          I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.

                                          The British burned the whole place to the ground, IIRC.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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