Walz Vance debate
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I watched the whole debate. Several of the issues were the same as to what is being debated in this country. Not surprisingly, Walz is still working his last job. Don’t think it helps him. Not sure about Vance, although he strikes me as a more educated and smoother version of our little P.P., Pierre Poilievre.
Can’t help but think though that Walz too often pulled faces that made himself look like Don Rickles. It was distracting.
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@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:
He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.
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@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:
He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.
@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
@Mik said in Walz Vance debate:
He looked alternately puzzled and scared. I'd love to clean him out at the poker table.
LOL!
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I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
Abortion > Possible nuclear war.
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@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
Abortion > Possible nuclear war.
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
Abortion > Possible nuclear war.
IVF for everyone after the radiation!
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When Vance's mic was cut, he was trying to explain the use of the CBP app. Walz was wrong in his characterization of that policy.
The idiot moderators at CBS should have let Vance make his point and then allow Walz a short rebuttal. After all, this was a debate and the two were addressing perhaps the largest issue of the campaign.
No, we had to go to climate change, with O'Donnell prefacing her question with opinion stated as fact.
Sheesh...
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I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
It was 10 minutes on abortion.
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@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
I don't know if this is accurate, but I'll bet it's pretty close:
Hugh Hewitt:
Abortion has now taken a third of a debate after Iran fired 180+ missiles at Iran (sic). Not one question on China, DOD, Ukraine. It's a remarkable abdication by legacy media and the last time GOP should ever agree to left wing media moderating anything.
It was 10 minutes on abortion.
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@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.
Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.
I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.
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@George-K said in Walz Vance debate:
DRINKING GAME:
Strike
Inflation
Hurricane
Border
Israel
Iran
Listen for politicians of all stripes to begin their sentences with “look”, downward inflected. It’s the mark of folksy honesty forthcoming and it is peppered throughout almost every trained politicians speeches.
Education is extremely important.
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@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.
Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.
I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.
@89th said in Walz Vance debate:
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
I would bet any amount of money that 140 officers beaten that day (Walz’s claim) would stand up to no scrutiny. Actually 140 officers injured would also probably stand up to no scrutiny, unless one expands the definition of “injured” beyond any recognition.
Education is extremely important.
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@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.
Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.
I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.
@89th said in Walz Vance debate:
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.
Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.
I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.
The British burned the whole place to the ground, IIRC.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@89th said in Walz Vance debate:
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
I would bet any amount of money that 140 officers beaten that day (Walz’s claim) would stand up to no scrutiny. Actually 140 officers injured would also probably stand up to no scrutiny, unless one expands the definition of “injured” beyond any recognition.
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@89th said in Walz Vance debate:
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
I would bet any amount of money that 140 officers beaten that day (Walz’s claim) would stand up to no scrutiny. Actually 140 officers injured would also probably stand up to no scrutiny, unless one expands the definition of “injured” beyond any recognition.
I believe the 140 statistic was documented and published many times over the past 4 years not something Walz just made up. I'm not saying the number is accurate, who knows... but again, let's think about what this is parsing. "140 officers were injured and 10 killed..." oh no way man, that's totally wrong, you're an idiot, "Trump only incited a mob that injured 105 officers and had 4 killed!", wow how dumb to believe the 140 number.
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@89th said in Walz Vance debate:
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.
Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.
I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.
The British burned the whole place to the ground, IIRC.
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@89th said in Walz Vance debate:
@Jolly said in Walz Vance debate:
@Horace said in Walz Vance debate:
@LuFins-Dad said in Walz Vance debate:
Do they challenge him on the claim that police died because of January 6th?
He said 140 police officers were beaten.
And many later died.
Yes it's demonstrably true that because of Trump's rhetoric and rally spinning up his supporters, we saw the largest mass assault on law enforcement in US history that day, 140 police officers injured. A few dying within days, not to mention a few MAGA folks dying from heart attacks, one overdose (ok maybe that one isn't related), and one dying after trying to breach a barrier guarded by officers with guns yelling not to break through.
But yes Vance, let's focus on the future.
Kind of feel bad for Vance... he's a solid guy, as @Mik said either of these guys would be better for the job than Trump or Harris, Vance spoke the truth before about Trump only now to have to swallow his integrity so as to gain power. Maybe it's 4D chess where Vance is doing this to become president in 2028 and then implement his principals before he became a Trump sycophant.
I only watched the first 10 minutes, it seems Walz was nervous but got into his groove. It otherwise reminded me of civil debates pre-2016 before the 3rd grader bully invaded the stage.
The British burned the whole place to the ground, IIRC.
Sorry I should've clarified that the largest mass assault on law enforcement was in context of our own citizens, not war with another country.
