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The Exploding Pagers

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:49 last edited by
    #196

    Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      2 Oct 2024, 15:48

      @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:50 last edited by
      #197

      @taiwan_girl

      Watch. The transcript never reveals everything about human interaction.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J jon-nyc
        2 Oct 2024, 15:49

        Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

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        Mik
        wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:58 last edited by
        #198

        @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

        Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

        Yep. Those trains left the station a thousand years ago.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 16:07 last edited by
          #199

          The only way it would be appropriate if heavily qualified, like “a preemptive strike on their nuclear program”. Which would be a reasonable question for them both.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Mik
            wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 17:02 last edited by
            #200

            And a reasonable action, IMO. They have ballistic missiles and it's only a matter of time before they put a nuke on one.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Mik
              wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 22:46 last edited by
              #201

              Joe does not approve. I doubt Bibi cares. It could be just a show too. "Oh, I opposed that strike" wink wink.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-states-which-response-from-israel-to-iran-s-strike-us-will-not-approve/ar-AA1rBO77?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=b098a54595f6410880dbb48949228919&ei=28

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 6 Oct 2024, 21:19 last edited by
                #202

                Lots of fun detail, worth a read if you can get around the paywall.

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/05/israel-mossad-hezbollah-pagers-nasrallah/

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  bachophile
                  wrote on 7 Oct 2024, 13:54 last edited by
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                    George K
                    wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 22:46 last edited by
                    #204

                    More deets:

                    And the best picture:

                    image.jpeg

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:20 last edited by
                      #205

                      I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                      The Brad

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:21 last edited by
                        #206

                        I mean, if Israel actually made money out of the deal, I might just have to emigrate…

                        The Brad

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                          16 Oct 2024, 23:20

                          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:33 last edited by
                          #207

                          @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                          On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            16 Oct 2024, 23:33

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                            I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                            On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:51 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                            I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                            On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                            There's no way no one over there saw the potential irony, though. I mean just for starters you have terrorists paying to get taken out.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              16 Oct 2024, 23:33

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 00:28 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                              The planning and engineering is a wash as those employees doing the planning and engineering would still have been paid sitting on their asses saying “drone strike”

                              Dear god, I think I might need to move to Israel.

                              The Brad

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                                bachophile
                                wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 12:50 last edited by
                                #210

                                If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

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                                  17 Oct 2024, 12:50

                                  If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:31 last edited by
                                  #211

                                  @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

                                  Where’s the best cheeseburger joint?

                                  The Brad

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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:35 last edited by
                                    #212

                                    https://www.fatcow.co.il/?env=true

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:38 last edited by
                                      #213

                                      63?! I hope that’s in shekels, at least!

                                      The Brad

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                                        bachophile
                                        wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:38 last edited by
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                                        Shekels

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:39 last edited by
                                          #215

                                          Divide by 4

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