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  • L LuFins Dad
    2 Oct 2024, 15:34

    Again, I am astonished that the moderators on last night’s debate asked if the candidates would advise Israel against a preemptive strike against Iran. Preemptive? They’ve now had 2 separate strikes launched against them.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:48 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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      jon-nyc
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      Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • T taiwan_girl
        2 Oct 2024, 15:48

        @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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        Jolly
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        @taiwan_girl

        Watch. The transcript never reveals everything about human interaction.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          2 Oct 2024, 15:49

          Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

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          Mik
          wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 15:58 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

          Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

          Yep. Those trains left the station a thousand years ago.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 16:07 last edited by
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            The only way it would be appropriate if heavily qualified, like “a preemptive strike on their nuclear program”. Which would be a reasonable question for them both.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Mik
              wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 17:02 last edited by
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              And a reasonable action, IMO. They have ballistic missiles and it's only a matter of time before they put a nuke on one.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Mik
                wrote on 2 Oct 2024, 22:46 last edited by
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                Joe does not approve. I doubt Bibi cares. It could be just a show too. "Oh, I opposed that strike" wink wink.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-states-which-response-from-israel-to-iran-s-strike-us-will-not-approve/ar-AA1rBO77?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=b098a54595f6410880dbb48949228919&ei=28

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 6 Oct 2024, 21:19 last edited by
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                  Lots of fun detail, worth a read if you can get around the paywall.

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/05/israel-mossad-hezbollah-pagers-nasrallah/

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    bachophile
                    wrote on 7 Oct 2024, 13:54 last edited by
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                      George K
                      wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 22:46 last edited by
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                      More deets:

                      And the best picture:

                      image.jpeg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:20 last edited by
                        #205

                        I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                        The Brad

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:21 last edited by
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                          I mean, if Israel actually made money out of the deal, I might just have to emigrate…

                          The Brad

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            16 Oct 2024, 23:20

                            I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:33 last edited by
                            #207

                            @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                            I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                            On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              16 Oct 2024, 23:33

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 16 Oct 2024, 23:51 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                              There's no way no one over there saw the potential irony, though. I mean just for starters you have terrorists paying to get taken out.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                16 Oct 2024, 23:33

                                @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 00:28 last edited by
                                #209

                                @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                                The planning and engineering is a wash as those employees doing the planning and engineering would still have been paid sitting on their asses saying “drone strike”

                                Dear god, I think I might need to move to Israel.

                                The Brad

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                                  bachophile
                                  wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 12:50 last edited by
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                                  If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

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                                    17 Oct 2024, 12:50

                                    If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:31 last edited by
                                    #211

                                    @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                    If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

                                    Where’s the best cheeseburger joint?

                                    The Brad

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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:35 last edited by
                                      #212

                                      https://www.fatcow.co.il/?env=true

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:38 last edited by
                                        #213

                                        63?! I hope that’s in shekels, at least!

                                        The Brad

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                                          bachophile
                                          wrote on 17 Oct 2024, 13:38 last edited by
                                          #214

                                          Shekels

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