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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    #194

    Again, I am astonished that the moderators on last night’s debate asked if the candidates would advise Israel against a preemptive strike against Iran. Preemptive? They’ve now had 2 separate strikes launched against them.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Again, I am astonished that the moderators on last night’s debate asked if the candidates would advise Israel against a preemptive strike against Iran. Preemptive? They’ve now had 2 separate strikes launched against them.

      taiwan_girlT Offline
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      #195

      @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

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        #196

        Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @LuFins-Dad UNfortunately (at least from the transcript I read), neither was willing to answer with a yes or no.

          JollyJ Offline
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          @taiwan_girl

          Watch. The transcript never reveals everything about human interaction.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #198

            @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

            Words like 'preemptive' and 'unprovoked' should simply never be used in relation to the Middle East.

            Yep. Those trains left the station a thousand years ago.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              #199

              The only way it would be appropriate if heavily qualified, like “a preemptive strike on their nuclear program”. Which would be a reasonable question for them both.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #200

                And a reasonable action, IMO. They have ballistic missiles and it's only a matter of time before they put a nuke on one.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #201

                  Joe does not approve. I doubt Bibi cares. It could be just a show too. "Oh, I opposed that strike" wink wink.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-states-which-response-from-israel-to-iran-s-strike-us-will-not-approve/ar-AA1rBO77?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=b098a54595f6410880dbb48949228919&ei=28

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #202

                    Lots of fun detail, worth a read if you can get around the paywall.

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/05/israel-mossad-hezbollah-pagers-nasrallah/

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • bachophileB Offline
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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #204

                        More deets:

                        And the best picture:

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            I mean, if Israel actually made money out of the deal, I might just have to emigrate…

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

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                              #207

                              @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                              I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                              On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

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                                @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                                There's no way no one over there saw the potential irony, though. I mean just for starters you have terrorists paying to get taken out.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                  On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #209

                                  @jon-nyc said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                  I wonder what the cost of manufacturing, marketing, and distributing those pagers and walkie-talkies were vs how much Israel was actually paid by Hamas…

                                  On that metric they probably made a profit but if you factor in planning and engineering (ie, all the Mossad time) they definitely did not, though that’s hardly relevant. This was a national security operation not a business pursuit.

                                  The planning and engineering is a wash as those employees doing the planning and engineering would still have been paid sitting on their asses saying “drone strike”

                                  Dear god, I think I might need to move to Israel.

                                  The Brad

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                                    bachophile
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                                    #210

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

                                      LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #211

                                      @bachophile said in The Exploding Pagers:

                                      If u need help house hunting let me know. City? Suburbs? Maybe a rural area? Good schools around? Business opportunities? Just say the word.

                                      Where’s the best cheeseburger joint?

                                      The Brad

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                                        bachophile
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #212

                                        https://www.fatcow.co.il/?env=true

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                                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #213

                                          63?! I hope that’s in shekels, at least!

                                          The Brad

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