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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Another shooting at Trump:

    I think it’s obvious the guy is simply anti-establishment. He supported Trump in 16 because he was attacking the established party control on both sides. When Trump turned out to be just a different type of Swamp monster, he just moved on and on…

    I am sure he was chaotically anti-establishment at times, but the most obvious thing about him is that he was all-in on existential threat narratives. Because he said so, and because that one overriding concern had him rooting strongly for the establishment.

    Education is extremely important.

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      My guess is that this'll be another situation where, if the assassin had been moderately well trained, we'd have had a dead Trump. Just like last time. Getting caught because you poked the barrel out of the fence? Maybe don't do that next time.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Go after the family...

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        This guys (now deleted) X profile tells us to "Bring the JOY!"

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Personal comment...

          Of all rifles to attempt a 300-500 yard shot, I would not pick an AK. They have pinned barrels and accuracy of about 3 MOA in 7.62x39 (most common caliber). That means about 9 inches at 300 yards and 15 inches at 500 yards, even with a good scope.

          Also the 122 - 124g bullet (typical bullet weight) drops a good bit.

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          @Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:

          , I would not pick an AK

          Lot of chatter on X about exactly what kind of rifle it is.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Mini-30? A Mini-30 uses a modified Garand action.

            Dumb ass. Look at the exposed gas tube on top of the barrel. That screams Kalishnikov action.

            Now, is it some kind of variant? Who knows?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • 89th8 89th

              @Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:

              Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).

              @Copper it's much easier to picture these shooting distances now that we're talking about golf yardage!

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              @89th said in Another shooting at Trump:

              @Jolly said in Another shooting at Trump:

              Trump was on the fifth hole, on or around the green. Reports vary, but the would be assassin was somewhere around 300 yards away (some say as much as 500).

              @Copper it's much easier to picture these shooting distances now that we're talking about golf yardage!

              500 yards, so that would be about a 3 iron for Mr. Trump.

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                There's a lot more of this.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  The Hodgkinson effect is in full force.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Why all the attention on which exact rifle? The dude had a broomstick and was going to try to ventilate Trump…

                        The Brad

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                          Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

                          Fair, if true.

                          Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans pounce seize.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                            Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

                            Fair, if true.

                            Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans pounce seize.

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                            @George-K said in Another shooting at Trump:

                            @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                            Probably a reason they memed the print edition and not the website. Print edition had an early deadline. Website has no deadline.

                            Fair, if true.

                            Now explain this. Bloomberg's focus is how Republicans pounce seize.

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                                According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                                  According to a report I saw, the golf game wasn’t on Trump’s public schedule. He actually wasn’t supposed to be there.

                                  I've seen that as well. So how did the assassin-wannabe know where and when to be there. One report said he arrived 12 hours before the event. Did he just show up and hope that Trump would go for a round of golf?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Another shooting at Trump:

                                    So it looks like the guy never fired a shot. I wonder how much that complicates the prosecution and what he can be charged with.

                                    NEW: The USSS Director says during a press conference the man with the gun did not have a line of sight to Trump and fired no shots. The investigation is ongoing, but so far there are only gun charges.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      Oswald didn't have a line of sight, until the car moved into his line of sight.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        If he was there for 12 hours, one might assume that lots of golfers passed by. He was probably waiting for a particular golfer.

                                        But lacking more information, we should not jump to any conclusions about who he may have been waiting for. It's too early to tell. Let's allow the investigation play out.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          My post wasn’t about motives. It’s about charges. Hence the reply to my previous.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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