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  • J jon-nyc
    5 Nov 2024, 11:49

    Interesting. From Nate.

    The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:24 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

    Interesting. From Nate.

    The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

    The largest Puerto Rican community in the continental US. Trump flipped it.
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:29 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Jun 2024, 02:30
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      So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • J jon-nyc
        6 Nov 2024, 02:29

        So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:42 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

        So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

        Maybe.

        Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

        Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

        Which is fine by me.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          George K
          wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:45 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Horace
            wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:56 last edited by
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            Betting markets are now 80% for Trump winning the electoral college. Started the night in the high 50s.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • J Jolly
              6 Nov 2024, 02:42

              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

              So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

              Maybe.

              Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

              Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

              Which is fine by me.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:58 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in It’s starting:

              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

              So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

              Maybe.

              Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

              Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

              Which is fine by me.

              Really? I’m seeing very few places where she is outperforming Biden.

              The Brad

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                kluurs
                wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:59 last edited by
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                Just eyeballing things, Trump seems safe to get around 250 w/o real effort. It may be PA that decides this thing.

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                • K kluurs
                  6 Nov 2024, 02:59

                  Just eyeballing things, Trump seems safe to get around 250 w/o real effort. It may be PA that decides this thing.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 03:00 last edited by
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                  @kluurs said in It’s starting:

                  Just eyeballing things, Trump seems safe to get around 250 w/o real effort. It may be PA that decides this thing.

                  Though DDHQ called Virginia for Harris, there's some question about that being premature.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 03:09 last edited by
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                    85% for Trump winning now on the betting market I'm following. Kamala better hope lots of dumb money is flowing in.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 03:09 last edited by
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                      Any chance we see MI, WI, PA called tonight? Because it's come down to those. (big surprise)

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        6 Nov 2024, 03:09

                        85% for Trump winning now on the betting market I'm following. Kamala better hope lots of dumb money is flowing in.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 03:16 last edited by
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                        @Horace said in It’s starting:

                        85% for Trump winning now on the betting market I'm following. Kamala better hope lots of dumb money is flowing in.

                        How do we know it isn't a bunch of concerned Dems hedging their bets now following the trend and selling off in favor of Trump?

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          6 Nov 2024, 03:16

                          @Horace said in It’s starting:

                          85% for Trump winning now on the betting market I'm following. Kamala better hope lots of dumb money is flowing in.

                          How do we know it isn't a bunch of concerned Dems hedging their bets now following the trend and selling off in favor of Trump?

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 03:23 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                          @Horace said in It’s starting:

                          85% for Trump winning now on the betting market I'm following. Kamala better hope lots of dumb money is flowing in.

                          How do we know it isn't a bunch of concerned Dems hedging their bets now following the trend and selling off in favor of Trump?

                          is there a sense in which that doesn't mean the betting public is gaining faith in a Trump victory? I don't see how the desired outcome of the people moving money around, makes any difference.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • A Axtremus
                            5 Nov 2024, 06:10

                            https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

                            Last and final update: 12:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 5. Happy Election Day! At exactly midnight on Tuesday, we ran our simulation model for the final time in this election cycle. Out of 80,000 simulations, Kamala Harris won in 40,012 (50.015%) cases.

                            That's Nate Silver's "pencils down" final answer for who his model predict will win the 2024 presidential election.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 04:07 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in It’s starting:

                            https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

                            Last and final update: 12:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 5. Happy Election Day! At exactly midnight on Tuesday, we ran our simulation model for the final time in this election cycle. Out of 80,000 simulations, Kamala Harris won in 40,012 (50.015%) cases.

                            That's Nate Silver's "pencils down" final answer for who his model predict will win the 2024 presidential election.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 12 Nov 2024, 13:47 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Dec 2024, 13:47
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                              Nice to see he didn’t get a majority. (If Nate’s right anyway). So close. I wonder what he’ll attribute it to? lol

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 12 Nov 2024, 13:51 last edited by Jolly 11 Dec 2024, 13:51
                                #234

                                That's the late California vote.

                                As long as he still wins the popular vote, I don't think it's a big deal.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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