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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #206

    Well, today we'll see...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      #207

      Today? Damn you’re optimistic.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Only non-witches get due process.

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          #209

          Interesting. From Nate.

          The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            jon-nyc
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            #210

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              jon-nyc
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              #211

              My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Interesting. From Nate.

                The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                JollyJ Offline
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                #212

                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                Interesting. From Nate.

                The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  #213

                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                  My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of unmarried women voters due to Dobbs.

                  FIFYNNTTM

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                    Biden won it 5-0 in 2020.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                      Interesting. From Nate.

                      The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                      And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                      But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

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                      #215

                      @Jolly

                      My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Jolly

                        My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

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                        #216

                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                        @Jolly

                        My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                        We shall see. I know there’s a lot more “garbage” in PA than there are Puerto Ricans.

                        The Brad

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                          So here’s Nate’s final numbers and it’s a little confusing. They ran the model 80K times and Kamala won 40,012 of them. He points out that means nothing. He could have run it another 80K times and Trump would have winning… no statistical difference between 40,012 and 39,988…

                          But the weird thing is that looking at state by state modeling, it has Trump winning PA and the Sunbelt. Game over..

                          https://www.natesilver.net/p/a-random-number-generator-determined

                          The Brad

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                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              And they all came back positive.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Interesting. From Nate.

                                The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                #220

                                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                Interesting. From Nate.

                                The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                The largest Puerto Rican community in the continental US. Trump flipped it.
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                                The Brad

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                                  #221

                                  So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #222

                                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                    So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                    Maybe.

                                    Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                                    Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                                    Which is fine by me.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        #224

                                        Betting markets are now 80% for Trump winning the electoral college. Started the night in the high 50s.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                          So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                          Maybe.

                                          Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                                          Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                                          Which is fine by me.

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                                          @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                          So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                          Maybe.

                                          Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                                          Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                                          Which is fine by me.

                                          Really? I’m seeing very few places where she is outperforming Biden.

                                          The Brad

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