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  • J jon-nyc
    30 Aug 2024, 00:44

    Date range of polling, and number/group. LV= likely voters

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 00:47 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc Sorry, I was. not more clear.

    "Electoral College Probability" and "Popular Vote Probability"

    Is the the % that they believe their final Electoral College Votes and Popular Vote are correct?

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 00:49 last edited by
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      Respectively the probabilities his model assigns to winning/losing the electoral college and popular votes. NOT a prediction of the vote outcome (those are later columns)

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        89th
        wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 18:52 last edited by
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        Oh man, this is shaping to be one heck of a fun November. Wow I just realized I'll be at Disney World during it. LOL

        In 2016... I was at Bandon Dunes (golf) in Oregon, and woke up to the news of the Trump win.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 19:09 last edited by
          #10

          The betting markets shifted back to Trump, yesterday.

          The Brad

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            30 Aug 2024, 19:09

            The betting markets shifted back to Trump, yesterday.

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            Copper
            wrote on 30 Aug 2024, 19:36 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

            The betting markets shifted back to Trump, yesterday.

            Please ask him to keep his mouth shut.

            Not one word.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:11 last edited by
              #12

              It’s the Crank Realignment RFK Jr endorsement.

              Let’s remember RFK was at 20% some months ago and 2% last week. By Election Day he should be a 6pt drag.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • J jon-nyc
                31 Aug 2024, 00:11

                It’s the Crank Realignment RFK Jr endorsement.

                Let’s remember RFK was at 20% some months ago and 2% last week. By Election Day he should be a 6pt drag.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:48 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                It’s the Crank Realignment RFK Jr endorsement.

                Let’s remember RFK was at 20% some months ago and 2% last week. By Election Day he should be a 6pt drag.

                Your girl has already peaked, Jon. You know it.

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:52 last edited by
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                  https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-consider-replacing-kamala-harris-with-more-coherent-joe-biden?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0SoU0RTh42IMUbffbO2xoRSejDznbHiK0Fa9Z94CkbmRZdcRV0QIxHP3g_aem_okC_d9yqg0HFbjlAVSaTGg

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
                    wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 00:56 last edited by
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                    "More Coherent Joe Biden"

                    That's one damn long list...

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 31 Aug 2024, 01:03 last edited by
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                      Who knows?

                      After her one interview, Kamala-lama-ding-dong may not do another. If she can keep the electorate from figuring out how goofy she is and the MSM keeps up the coronation music, all she has to do is survive the debate.

                      By that time, early voting starts and the Big Blue Machine kicks in. Throw in a jail sentence by Bragg's Boy and who knows what can happen?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 16:34 last edited by LuFins Dad 9 Apr 2024, 16:34
                        #17

                        Silver’s pissing a lot of people off…

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                        The Brad

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 17:11 last edited by
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                          That surprises me.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            bachophile
                            wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 17:26 last edited by
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                            Another silver polll, just sayin….

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                            • B bachophile
                              4 Sept 2024, 17:26

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                              Another silver polll, just sayin….

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 18:00 last edited by
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                              @bachophile said in It’s starting:

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                              Another silver polll, just sayin….

                              Not a poll, a model based on all the polls and statistical data. And that model and statistician was the only one that gave Trump anything over 5%, Silver was the lone voice that started going on TV and warning that the pundits were wrong, and that Trump was starting to gain momentum and posed a significant chance of winning. He got laughed at and insulted by The NY Times and WaPo.

                              That model you point to doesn’t diminish my point or confidence, but actually reinforces it.

                              https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2017/03/nate-silver-says-conventional-wisdom-not-data-killed-2016-election-forecasts/

                              The Brad

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 18:02 last edited by
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                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/27/your-critique-that-fivethirtyeight-misfired-on-the-2016-race-is-wrong/

                                The Brad

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:26 last edited by
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                                  I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • D Doctor Phibes
                                    4 Sept 2024, 19:26

                                    I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:38 last edited by
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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

                                    I think the heavy interest with opinion polls is quite interesting psychologically. What does it matter who is "winning" in a two-party system where there is no real justification for tactical voting? Do people really change their preferred candidate based on the fact that they don't want to be on the losing team?

                                    No, but they change their donation intentions… If it’s a close race, donors might go a little higher. If it’s trending downwards, they might either substantially increase or substantially decrease their donations.

                                    The Brad

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:40 last edited by
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                                      Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

                                      The Brad

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                                        4 Sept 2024, 19:40

                                        Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 19:52 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                        Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

                                        That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          4 Sept 2024, 19:52

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                          Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

                                          That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 4 Sept 2024, 20:02 last edited by
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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in It’s starting:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in It’s starting:

                                          Plus, I live with the belief that people are idiots. Individuals can be quite intelligent, but put them in groups and they immediately become less intelligent. The bigger the group, the dumber they get.

                                          That would certainly explain the quality of the two candidates.

                                          For many, many elections….

                                          I’m probably a believer in anti-democracy. The more people support a policy, the worse it probably is…

                                          The Brad

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