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  • 89th8 89th

    @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

    @89th said in Garland's Brag:

    Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle

    https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/sentencing/sentencing-statistics/how-much-time-will-i-serve-for-arson.html

    Under federal law, an arson conviction can carry up to 10 years in federal prison, even if no one was hurt and the defendant set fire to their own property.

    The average sentence for arson in New York is 74 months. The average.

    Now, 'splain me how this lawyer got 12 months.

    The lawyer who lit the car on fire got 15 months. The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

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    @89th said in Garland's Brag:

    The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

    Ask yourself why the prosecutor asked for 20% of the usual sentence for arson.

    Not to mention arson of a police car.

    Why sentenced to ONLY $30K restitution for a police car?

    During a riot during which other Molotov cocktails they distributed.

    Was there a plea deal?

    Yeah, the terrorism charge was dropped. Firebombing during a riot - dropped.

    Sorry, we'll have to disagree. Sparks' crime doesn't even come close to this.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      #20

      https://www.wlky.com/article/louisville-man-sentenced-storming-us-capitol-dan-wilson/62000598

      Dan Wilson was sentenced to five years in prison.

      He told a judge that he regrets entering the Capitol that day but said he had good intentions, believing the country was in turmoil.

      and

      The judge said there is “no question" that Wilson intended to interfere with the congressional certification of Biden's 2020 electoral victory over Trump.

      “He's not being punished for what he said that day. His comments are reflexive of his intent,” the judge said.

      (BTW, the judge was appointed by President Trump. Gosh darn those biased judges. Those not appointed by him are bias against him. Those that are appointed by him are bias against him. He just can't win.

      Isn't it just possible if we take off our TDS hats on both sides and realize the just maybe, the punishment DOES fit the crime??)

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        No, I don't care who they are appointed by, although I suspect the Dem judges may be harder in sentencing.

        I think a lot of it is a reaction to challenge of authority.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #22

          If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

          But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

            But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

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            @taiwan_girl said in Garland's Brag:

            If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

            But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

            Isn't that what I said?

            The Swamp is bipartisan. Throw in Bernie and it's tripartisan...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @taiwan_girl said in Garland's Brag:

              If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

              But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

              Isn't that what I said?

              The Swamp is bipartisan. Throw in Bernie and it's tripartisan...

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              @Jolly said in Garland's Brag:

              @taiwan_girl said in Garland's Brag:

              If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

              But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

              Isn't that what I said?

              The Swamp is bipartisan. Throw in Bernie and it's tripartisan...

              Maybe I misunderstood. I thought you were saying that there was some sort of judge conspiracy against President Trump and his followers, especially as relating to Jan 6

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                I think there is a Jan 6 bias, no doubt about it.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @taiwan_girl said in Garland's Brag:

                  If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

                  But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

                  Isn't that what I said?

                  The Swamp is bipartisan. Throw in Bernie and it's tripartisan...

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                  #26

                  @Jolly said in Garland's Brag:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Garland's Brag:

                  If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

                  But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

                  Isn't that what I said?

                  The Swamp is bipartisan. Throw in Bernie and it's tripartisan...

                  There's an old saw that if you find that absolutely everybody you work with thinks you're an asshole, maybe they're not the problem.

                  I was only joking

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                  • George KG George K

                    @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                    The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

                    Ask yourself why the prosecutor asked for 20% of the usual sentence for arson.

                    Not to mention arson of a police car.

                    Why sentenced to ONLY $30K restitution for a police car?

                    During a riot during which other Molotov cocktails they distributed.

                    Was there a plea deal?

                    Yeah, the terrorism charge was dropped. Firebombing during a riot - dropped.

                    Sorry, we'll have to disagree. Sparks' crime doesn't even come close to this.

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                    @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                    @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                    The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

                    Ask yourself why the prosecutor asked for 20% of the usual sentence for arson.

                    Not to mention arson of a police car.

                    Why sentenced to ONLY $30K restitution for a police car?

                    During a riot during which other Molotov cocktails they distributed.

                    Was there a plea deal?

                    Yeah, the terrorism charge was dropped. Firebombing during a riot - dropped.

                    Sorry, we'll have to disagree. Sparks' crime doesn't even come close to this.

                    I'm not comparing the two sentences. There are a billion examples of sentences that are too harsh relative to ones that are too light. Now, does it help that the lawyer plead guilty and showed remorse, whereas Sparks denies the crimes, taunted the court, and profited off of it? Not the smartest goose in the MAGgle.

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                      Justice should not depend upon the defendant's attitude, should it?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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