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  • George KG George K

    A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

    General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

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    89th
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    #4

    @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

    A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

    General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

    Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

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      It's never been about Justice. Like Jon, Garland HATES MAGA-type people. These prosecutions have been a naked show of force, a vendetta and a clear message to people who disagree with the power of Washington and who stupidly think the people rule the country, should STFU and eat their bugs.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 89th8 89th

        @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

        A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

        General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

        Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

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        George K
        wrote on last edited by George K
        #6

        @89th said in Garland's Brag:

        @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

        A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

        General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

        Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

        https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

        Remember this?

        https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

          General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

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          #7

          @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

          A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

          Donald Trump, you have a lot to be proud of.

          Think of how many families have been destroyed by that fragile ego.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

            A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

            Donald Trump, you have a lot to be proud of.

            Think of how many families have been destroyed by that fragile ego.

            89th8 Online
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @jon-nyc said in Garland's Brag:

            @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

            A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

            Donald Trump, you have a lot to be proud of.

            Think of how many families have been destroyed by that fragile ego.

            I almost wrote the same thing, but would've gone with the tired trope of FIFY 🙂

            taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
            • 89th8 89th

              @jon-nyc said in Garland's Brag:

              @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

              A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

              Donald Trump, you have a lot to be proud of.

              Think of how many families have been destroyed by that fragile ego.

              I almost wrote the same thing, but would've gone with the tired trope of FIFY 🙂

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              #9

              @89th

              (Ive seen FIFY posted before, but what does it mean? For Instance something something?)

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              • 89th8 Online
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                89th
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                #10

                "Fixed It For You"

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                • George KG George K

                  @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                  @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                  A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                  General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                  Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                  https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                  Remember this?

                  https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                  89th8 Online
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                  89th
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                  #11

                  @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                  @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                  @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                  A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                  General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                  Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                  https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                  Remember this?

                  https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                  Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                  For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                  I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    "Fixed It For You"

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                    @89th thanks!

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                      @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                      @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                      A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                      General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                      Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                      https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                      Remember this?

                      https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                      Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                      For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                      I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                      Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle

                      https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/sentencing/sentencing-statistics/how-much-time-will-i-serve-for-arson.html

                      Under federal law, an arson conviction can carry up to 10 years in federal prison, even if no one was hurt and the defendant set fire to their own property.

                      The average sentence for arson in New York is 74 months. The average.

                      Now, 'splain me how this lawyer got 12 months.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                        A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                        Donald Trump, you have a lot to be proud of.

                        Think of how many families have been destroyed by that fragile ego.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @jon-nyc said in Garland's Brag:

                        @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                        A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                        Donald Trump, you have a lot to be proud of.

                        Think of how many families have been destroyed by that fragile ego.

                        WTF part of "peacefully protest" do you not understand?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                          @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                          @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                          A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                          General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                          Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                          https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                          Remember this?

                          https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                          Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                          For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                          I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

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                          Jolly
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                          #15

                          @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                          @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                          @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                          @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                          A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                          General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                          Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                          https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                          Remember this?

                          https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                          Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                          For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                          I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

                          So you're fine with giving a praying grandmother six months for trespass?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                            @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                            @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                            A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                            General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                            Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                            https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                            Remember this?

                            https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                            Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                            For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                            I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                            For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

                            I'm sorry, but that's absolute bullshit. By your fruit, ye shall be known. You consistently produce fruit that shows you always take the fed side, unless DJT is in office.

                            To be that convinced, you're lying to yourself. Socrates said that the unexamined life is not worth living. Perhaps some introspection is in order.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                              Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle

                              https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/sentencing/sentencing-statistics/how-much-time-will-i-serve-for-arson.html

                              Under federal law, an arson conviction can carry up to 10 years in federal prison, even if no one was hurt and the defendant set fire to their own property.

                              The average sentence for arson in New York is 74 months. The average.

                              Now, 'splain me how this lawyer got 12 months.

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                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #17

                              @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                              @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                              Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle

                              https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/sentencing/sentencing-statistics/how-much-time-will-i-serve-for-arson.html

                              Under federal law, an arson conviction can carry up to 10 years in federal prison, even if no one was hurt and the defendant set fire to their own property.

                              The average sentence for arson in New York is 74 months. The average.

                              Now, 'splain me how this lawyer got 12 months.

                              The lawyer who lit the car on fire got 15 months. The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                                @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                                @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                                @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                                A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                                General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                                Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                                https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                                Remember this?

                                https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                                Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                                For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                                I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

                                So you're fine with giving a praying grandmother six months for trespass?

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                                89th
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                                @Jolly said in Garland's Brag:

                                @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                                @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                                @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                                @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                                A guy who came into the Capitol through a broken window and spent 10 minutes in the building after getting pepper-sprayed and then leaving got almost 5 years in prison.

                                General Garland, you have a lot to be proud of.

                                Are you talking about Barry Ramey?

                                https://nypost.com/2024/08/27/us-news/first-rioter-to-enter-capitol-during-jan-6-attack-sentenced-to-over-4-years-in-prison/

                                Remember this?

                                https://www.fox5ny.com/news/lawyer-in-nypd-police-car-firebombing-sentenced-to-prison

                                Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle, but I'd have no problem if they got more time behind bars.

                                For Michael Sparks, you won't find sympathy with me, he was charged with 6 crimes (all make sense to me) and found guilty by a jury. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. 4-5 years makes sense to me, now if it was like 20 years that would seem a bit much.

                                I have some sympathy for any protester who later followed a large crowd through open doors into the Capitol, went to the rotunda room, chanted, and left. Sure... but those who led the charge, broke windows, led the breach, chased cops, fought cops, and so forth...all in an effort to stop an election. Zero sympathy. For the 100th time, I'd feel the same if it was Obama or the BLM crew doing it to stop Trump from being elected.

                                So you're fine with giving a praying grandmother six months for trespass?

                                LOL you mean the lady who self-titled herself as "the praying grandma" who trespassed in the Capitol and then made fun of the courts and profited off of denouncing the legal system (probably not the best idea when you're still on trial)? Oh and her "6 months" was confined to her own home.

                                So yes, the answer is yes I'm cool with that.

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                                • 89th8 89th

                                  @George-K said in Garland's Brag:

                                  @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                                  Not sure what sentencing guidelines are for arson of an empty vehicle

                                  https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/sentencing/sentencing-statistics/how-much-time-will-i-serve-for-arson.html

                                  Under federal law, an arson conviction can carry up to 10 years in federal prison, even if no one was hurt and the defendant set fire to their own property.

                                  The average sentence for arson in New York is 74 months. The average.

                                  Now, 'splain me how this lawyer got 12 months.

                                  The lawyer who lit the car on fire got 15 months. The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

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                                  @89th said in Garland's Brag:

                                  The prosecutor asked for 18-24 months, because of a plea deal. So I guess, plea deal is the answer to your question?

                                  Ask yourself why the prosecutor asked for 20% of the usual sentence for arson.

                                  Not to mention arson of a police car.

                                  Why sentenced to ONLY $30K restitution for a police car?

                                  During a riot during which other Molotov cocktails they distributed.

                                  Was there a plea deal?

                                  Yeah, the terrorism charge was dropped. Firebombing during a riot - dropped.

                                  Sorry, we'll have to disagree. Sparks' crime doesn't even come close to this.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    https://www.wlky.com/article/louisville-man-sentenced-storming-us-capitol-dan-wilson/62000598

                                    Dan Wilson was sentenced to five years in prison.

                                    He told a judge that he regrets entering the Capitol that day but said he had good intentions, believing the country was in turmoil.

                                    and

                                    The judge said there is “no question" that Wilson intended to interfere with the congressional certification of Biden's 2020 electoral victory over Trump.

                                    “He's not being punished for what he said that day. His comments are reflexive of his intent,” the judge said.

                                    (BTW, the judge was appointed by President Trump. Gosh darn those biased judges. Those not appointed by him are bias against him. Those that are appointed by him are bias against him. He just can't win.

                                    Isn't it just possible if we take off our TDS hats on both sides and realize the just maybe, the punishment DOES fit the crime??)

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                                      No, I don't care who they are appointed by, although I suspect the Dem judges may be harder in sentencing.

                                      I think a lot of it is a reaction to challenge of authority.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        #22

                                        If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

                                        But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

                                          But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in Garland's Brag:

                                          If it were one judge, yeah, maybe it could be said it was unjustified.

                                          But, when it is multiple judges from all sides of politics...............

                                          Isn't that what I said?

                                          The Swamp is bipartisan. Throw in Bernie and it's tripartisan...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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