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  • J jon-nyc
    27 Aug 2020, 16:03

    I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

    It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

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    George K
    wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 16:31 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

    I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

    It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

    Yes.

    The other question was was he reaching for the knife?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 16:50 last edited by
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      The problem here is as illustrated by the video George posted in Playing Cop. Here is a guy who has already struggled, been tazed, still gets up and walks away, ignoring police commands AT GUNPOINT, then tries to get into his car contrary to orders. The officer had no time to wait to see it he came around with a weapon.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Mik
        wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 19:20 last edited by
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        https://bluelivesmatter.blue/wisconsin-doj-confirms-jacob-blake-was-armed-when-he-was-shot/?fbclid=IwAR1C1IwR9Gl5evgOP8bJlc-Bxdrml1jXITthhnjXYEGZHaoTQOeFNHCrGSc

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • G George K
          27 Aug 2020, 16:31

          @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

          I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

          It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

          Yes.

          The other question was was he reaching for the knife?

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          Loki
          wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 19:25 last edited by
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          @George-K said in Blake Shooting:

          @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

          I don't put this in the same category as the 'fiery but otherwise peaceful' protest.

          It matters whether he had the knife on him or not when they shot him.

          Yes.

          The other question was was he reaching for the knife?

          So the guy is down. Is able to free himself, has been tased to no effect and ignores police commands and goes to the other side of the car and opens the door and is reaching down. What is the cop supposed to be thinking?

          Not sure this is the sequence of events but what if it is?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 20:21 last edited by
            #57

            I haven’t actually seen the video.

            I still haven’t seen the Floyd video either.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • K Kincaid
              27 Aug 2020, 05:07

              @89th said in Blake Shooting:

              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

              Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

              I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

              We don't negotiate with terrorists.

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              89th
              wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 20:39 last edited by
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              @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

              @89th said in Blake Shooting:

              @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

              Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

              I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

              We don't negotiate with terrorists.

              I’m not saying we should, or do. I’m just saying I think that will be the outcome. Reduced mob chaos.

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              • J jon-nyc
                27 Aug 2020, 20:21

                I haven’t actually seen the video.

                I still haven’t seen the Floyd video either.

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                89th
                wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 20:40 last edited by
                #59

                @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                I haven’t actually seen the video.

                I still haven’t seen the Floyd video either.

                If you watch Floyd, watch the newer video too, where he’s struggling in the back seat and claiming he can’t breathe a few minutes before he’s even put on the ground.

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 21:27 last edited by
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                  Out of the millions of innocent black men shot by police every year, why can't we find just one with a nice story and clear video?

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                  • 8 89th
                    27 Aug 2020, 20:39

                    @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

                    @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                    @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                    Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                    I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

                    We don't negotiate with terrorists.

                    I’m not saying we should, or do. I’m just saying I think that will be the outcome. Reduced mob chaos.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 21:34 last edited by
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                    @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                    @Kincaid said in Blake Shooting:

                    @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                    @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                    Seriously, How on earth could someone think we’ll get less of this if we re-elect him?

                    I agree. For better or worse, this chaos will be drastically reduced if Biden wins.

                    We don't negotiate with terrorists.

                    I’m not saying we should, or do. I’m just saying I think that will be the outcome. Reduced mob chaos.

                    I think it would be made more clear by saying "if Biden wins, the media will reduce its deliberate attempts to incite violence".

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 27 Aug 2020, 21:36 last edited by
                      #62

                      Also true. Absolutely.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 11:28 last edited by
                        #63

                        Blake's warrant:

                        https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 12:35 last edited by
                          #64

                          Saintly.

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 17:38 last edited by
                            #65

                            The nba stops because of this

                            The wnba stops because of this

                            The mlb stops because of this

                            The presidential campaign stops because of this

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                            • C Copper
                              29 Aug 2020, 17:38

                              The nba stops because of this

                              The wnba stops because of this

                              The mlb stops because of this

                              The presidential campaign stops because of this

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 01:21 last edited by
                              #66

                              @Copper said in Blake Shooting:

                              The nba stops because of this

                              The wnba stops because of this

                              The mlb stops because of this

                              The presidential campaign stops because of this

                              Wait, what’s the WNBA?

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 01:48 last edited by
                                #67

                                Whites have their own now. It’s an affirmative action thing.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  30 Aug 2020, 01:48

                                  Whites have their own now. It’s an affirmative action thing.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 02:01 last edited by
                                  #68

                                  @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                  Whites have their own now. It’s an affirmative action thing.

                                  That makes sense. At first I was thinking it must be for Women’s National Baking Association, but that makes no sense. No man is going to give his wife permission to join an association outside of the PTA.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    30 Aug 2020, 01:48

                                    Whites have their own now. It’s an affirmative action thing.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 02:01 last edited by
                                    #69

                                    @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                    Whites have their own now. It’s an affirmative action thing.

                                    lolz... literally, I lolz

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 31 Aug 2020, 13:17 last edited by
                                      #70

                                      Harsh, but fair:

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 31 Aug 2020, 13:27 last edited by
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                                        No kidding.

                                        On a related note, instead of folks like Lebron James boycotting for 2 days which does nothing other than fan the flames of a mostly false racist/police narrative, can you imagine how much actual positive change could happen if he instead shared the message that folks should respect cops and not resist arrest? It's really the only way these (cherry-picked because the victim is black) videos will stop.

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                                        • G George K
                                          31 Aug 2020, 13:17

                                          Harsh, but fair:

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                                          brenda
                                          wrote on 31 Aug 2020, 14:24 last edited by
                                          #72

                                          @George-K said in Blake Shooting:

                                          Harsh, but fair:

                                          Very fair. Getting conveniently forgotten in the narrative.

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