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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

    It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #2

      He's got a rap sheet a mile long. Guy should have been tazed, not shot.

      But he's a poor poster child for riot inspiration.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        Yeah, I would agree. They should have tazed him as soon as he walked away ignoring commands.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

          It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

          It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

          I saw someone on social media say he specifically told them he was getting his gun. Is that true? Haven't seen it elsewhere.

          One thing I can say is I've been punked enough by incomplete video snippets over the years to avoid drawing conclusions prematurely.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Horace
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            #5

            I'll reside over here in my fortified position against extrapolating society-wide institutionalized evil based on individual occurrences. That way I don't have to bank on the cops not being racist/evil individually, or, worst case, not being able to prove that they aren't.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Loki
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              I don’t have any answers and don’t know what was in his head or the cops.

              I think it’s fair to say that if he wasn’t drugged out that he had a sense no matter what his life on the streets was done for a long time given his rap sheet and current and upcoming warrants.

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                A couple of things struck me:

                1. Mr. Blake's three sons were in the vehicle. In effect they witnessed their father getting shot right in front of their eyes.

                1. The mother's statement: "As I was riding through here, through the city, I noticed a lot of damage. That doesn't reflect my son or my family. ... We need healing ... As I pray for my son's healing physically, emotionally and spiritually, I also have been praying even before this for the healing of our country."

                https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/08/25/report-jacob-blake-paralyzed-waste-down/5631308002/

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by Mik
                  #8

                  If Mr. Blake had simply complied with the officer's directions in an already tense situation his children would never have had to see that. He put his children in danger, not the police. What example did he set for them on how to comport oneself with LEOs? Struggling then trying to escape?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Horace
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                    #9

                    The left has given black people with death wishes an extraordinary power over our culture.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      #10

                      Has the cop’s version of the story come to light?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        No, but there is another video that shows what happened a few seconds before. Police were trying to take Blake into custody but he struggled, broke away and headed for his car.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          No, but there is another video that shows what happened a few seconds before. Police were trying to take Blake into custody but he struggled, broke away and headed for his car.

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                          Jolly
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                          @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

                          No, but there is another video that shows what happened a few seconds before. Police were trying to take Blake into custody but he struggled, broke away and headed for his car.

                          He had a warrant for his arrest for a sexual crime with a fifteen year-old.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

                            No, but there is another video that shows what happened a few seconds before. Police were trying to take Blake into custody but he struggled, broke away and headed for his car.

                            He had a warrant for his arrest for a sexual crime with a fifteen year-old.

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                            Loki
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                            @Jolly said in Blake Shooting:

                            @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

                            No, but there is another video that shows what happened a few seconds before. Police were trying to take Blake into custody but he struggled, broke away and headed for his car.

                            He had a warrant for his arrest for a sexual crime with a fifteen year-old.

                            I guess he knew that his past had finally caught up with him so why bother responding to the police. Still in this day and age the police have to figure out how not to shoot someone, unless I suppose they see the gun in hand. That’s the way it is I guess.

                            The law when you can shoot needs to be clarified. Honestly I am surprised police officers continue to take the risk. Must be the adrenaline pump at play.

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                              AFAIK, Kenosha cops do not have body-cams. That'll change in about a week.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Loki
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                                A new video from a different angle seems to make it less likely he had reached for a gun in the car as proximate cause. He goes from being on the ground held by police to being up and moving toward the other side of the car and then shot. Shot 7 times and apparently has both intensives removed along with the paralysis.

                                We haven’t heard the cops side of the story but it looks horrible at face value.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

                                  It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

                                  I saw someone on social media say he specifically told them he was getting his gun. Is that true? Haven't seen it elsewhere.

                                  One thing I can say is I've been punked enough by incomplete video snippets over the years to avoid drawing conclusions prematurely.

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                                  Kincaid
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Blake Shooting:

                                  @Mik said in Blake Shooting:

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-police-kenosha-wis-shooting-black-man-back-n1237819

                                  It does show them shooting him in the back. It also shows that police had weapons drawn were telling him to stop and he ignored their commands, walking away from the and getting in his car. While one might argue they should not have shot, you can certainly argue that Blake put himself where he is.

                                  I saw someone on social media say he specifically told them he was getting his gun. Is that true? Haven't seen it elsewhere.

                                  One thing I can say is I've been punked enough by incomplete video snippets over the years to avoid drawing conclusions prematurely.

                                  I also heard he was tazed to no effect. But you are right about "early reportage".

                                  Watched a video the other day of a guy the police were putting cuffs on. He struggled, with them and they did taze him. Before they could get cuffs on him he struggled more and got away. He got to his car, pulled his gun and put pills in both cops.

                                  People think putting a teacher in a COVID-age class room as a risk too great to the teacher. They never signed up to be willing to die for their job. But a cop is supposed to wait for Mr. Blake to turn around with a visible pistol before they get to shoot? Yes, cops signed up to put their life on the line. But not to have to put themselves at that much of a disadvantage.

                                  Every news anchor and politician that doesn't call for calm and order and to wait until the facts comes out is responsible for every riot, all the property damage, injury, and the deaths that come with their irresponsible race baiting.

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                                    In all of the dozens of riot-inducing videos, I think in every single case, it’s someone resisting arrest.

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      Another case of police under a Democrat Mayor and Democrat controlled council attacking an unarmed black man. Why do these Democrat City Officials keep attacking African Americans?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        In all of the dozens of riot-inducing videos, I think in every single case, it’s someone resisting arrest.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #19

                                        @89th said in Blake Shooting:

                                        In all of the dozens of riot-inducing videos, I think in every single case, it’s someone resisting arrest.

                                        That’s almost true, but doesn’t mean they were good shots.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
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                                          But it gives lie to the cries of racism.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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