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    Jolly
    wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 23:12 last edited by
    #171

    You've got more patience than I.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • 8 89th
      20 Aug 2024, 17:19

      I'm just picking one and looking into it, where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team. Does this mean the rest of your list is made up? BTW don't forget Trump had over 30,000 documented lies between 2017-2021. That's a lot of bullet points.

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      George K
      wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 23:24 last edited by
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      @89th said in It's Walz:

      where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

      AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

      He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

      Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • G George K
        20 Aug 2024, 22:30

        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

        Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

        Oops. Yes he did.

        In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

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        89th
        wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:03 last edited by
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        @George-K said in It's Walz:

        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

        Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

        Oops. Yes he did.

        In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

        Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

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        • G George K
          20 Aug 2024, 23:24

          @89th said in It's Walz:

          where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

          AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

          He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

          Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

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          89th
          wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:04 last edited by
          #174

          @George-K said in It's Walz:

          @89th said in It's Walz:

          where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

          AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

          He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

          Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

          I get your point, but the misinformation impression I find your list is the same as his approach. Now I can't trust George's lists! 😞

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          • 8 89th
            21 Aug 2024, 12:03

            @George-K said in It's Walz:

            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

            Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

            Oops. Yes he did.

            In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

            Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:11 last edited by
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            @89th said in It's Walz:

            @George-K said in It's Walz:

            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

            Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

            Oops. Yes he did.

            In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

            Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

            Yeah, but...As a politician, he knows that words mean things. IVF and IUI are different. Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major are different. Head coach and assistant coach are different. Europe and Iraq are different.

            See a pattern emerging?😄

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              89th
              wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:58 last edited by
              #176

              I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

              He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

              Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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              • 8 89th
                21 Aug 2024, 12:58

                I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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                George K
                wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 13:04 last edited by George K
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                @89th said in It's Walz:

                He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                ETA:

                Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                And...he didn't dispute it.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • 8 89th
                  21 Aug 2024, 12:58

                  I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                  He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                  Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 13:12 last edited by
                  #178

                  @89th said in It's Walz:

                  30,573 lies in 4 years

                  And you believe the source unerringly?

                  Lad, don't be an idiot.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • G George K
                    21 Aug 2024, 13:04

                    @89th said in It's Walz:

                    He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                    That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                    Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                    One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                    ETA:

                    Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                    And...he didn't dispute it.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 13:14 last edited by
                    #179

                    @George-K said in It's Walz:

                    @89th said in It's Walz:

                    He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                    That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                    Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                    One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                    ETA:

                    Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                    And...he didn't dispute it.

                    Wonder if 89th routinely claims to be Brad Pitt...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      89th
                      wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 14:36 last edited by
                      #180

                      I was Brad Pitt when I got married. I'll retire Rowan Atkinson, though.

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                      • J Jolly
                        21 Aug 2024, 13:12

                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                        30,573 lies in 4 years

                        And you believe the source unerringly?

                        Lad, don't be an idiot.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 14:37 last edited by
                        #181

                        @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                        30,573 lies in 4 years

                        And you believe the source unerringly?

                        Lad, don't be an idiot.

                        No it's just a chuckle that suddenly now you all care about being truthful. Trump tells more lies in one day than Walz in a decade.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 14:46 last edited by
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                          It does seem rather odd to spend such time parsing statements, act indignant when he didn’t correct someone else’s misrepresentation, then go pull a lever for Donald Trump.

                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 15:09 last edited by
                            #183

                            It seems to me when it comes to Trump's statements, @Jolly usually just say "I know what he means." 😄

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              21 Aug 2024, 14:46

                              It does seem rather odd to spend such time parsing statements, act indignant when he didn’t correct someone else’s misrepresentation, then go pull a lever for Donald Trump.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 15:46 last edited by Jolly
                              #184

                              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                              It does seem rather odd to spend such time parsing statements, act indignant when he didn’t correct someone else’s misrepresentation, then go pull a lever for Donald Trump.

                              Nope. I know what I'm getting in Trump.

                              Lower taxes, less regulation, lower energy prices, less illegals (Vance has the best idea on those)and judges. And bud, it's ALL about the judges.

                              I'll take some hyperbole (that's what you get from Trump, seldom do you get the outright lies such as the Biden Crime Family) and put up with the media circus.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                89th
                                wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 17:06 last edited by
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                                I'm totally with you on all of that Jolly, except to me it's not hyperbole, but it's lying, adultery, selfishness, and overall immature bullying that prevents me from voting for him. Not that it matters or he cares, but that's why. I won't even mention the crimes, convicted or just charged. It's a shame, too. Most of his policies, the judicial appointments, and his alpha leadership would be a great legacy, there are just so many swamp stains on it...

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 17:08 last edited by
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                                  And I know my first sentence seems like I'm exaggerating. I'm not... those are objective observations from anyone who sees or reads what he says.

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                                  • 8 89th
                                    21 Aug 2024, 17:06

                                    I'm totally with you on all of that Jolly, except to me it's not hyperbole, but it's lying, adultery, selfishness, and overall immature bullying that prevents me from voting for him. Not that it matters or he cares, but that's why. I won't even mention the crimes, convicted or just charged. It's a shame, too. Most of his policies, the judicial appointments, and his alpha leadership would be a great legacy, there are just so many swamp stains on it...

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 17:38 last edited by
                                    #187

                                    @89th said in It's Walz:

                                    I'm totally with you on all of that Jolly, except to me it's not hyperbole, but it's lying, adultery, selfishness, and overall immature bullying that prevents me from voting for him. Not that it matters or he cares, but that's why. I won't even mention the crimes, convicted or just charged. It's a shame, too. Most of his policies, the judicial appointments, and his alpha leadership would be a great legacy, there are just so many swamp stains on it...

                                    Start thinking like a Democrat.

                                    They don't care if Kamala dives into a bath of virgin's blood, if she can deliver the policies they want. They're not electing a pope.

                                    Ideally, neither should we.

                                    When faced with the allegations that Grant was a drunk, what did Lincoln do?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 17:45 last edited by
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                                      If it doesn't matter what kind of asshole you vote for as long as he shills for the right party, what's the point of these interminable discussions?

                                      I was only joking

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                                        21 Aug 2024, 17:45

                                        If it doesn't matter what kind of asshole you vote for as long as he shills for the right party, what's the point of these interminable discussions?

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 17:46 last edited by Jolly
                                        #189

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in It's Walz:

                                        If it doesn't matter what kind of asshole you vote for as long as he shills for the right party, what's the point of these interminable discussions?

                                        Arguing with you sumbitches what ain't got enough sense to vote the Right way.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 22 Aug 2024, 00:10 last edited by
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                                          "JD Vance is weird."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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