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It's Walz

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #164

    Update on the lies that Tim Walz has told:

    • Being an Afghan veteran
    • Being a command sgt major
    • Conceiving his children through IVF
    • Knowing his unit was being deployed
    • Carrying weapons into war
    • Being a head football coach
    • Lying about being deaf to get out of a DUI

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #165

      I'm just picking one and looking into it, where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team. Does this mean the rest of your list is made up? BTW don't forget Trump had over 30,000 documented lies between 2017-2021. That's a lot of bullet points.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #166

        I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
          wrote on last edited by 89th
          #167

          Plus if he said IVF but really did IUI, most people don't know what IUI is but know what IVF is. IUI is like the JV version of IVF btw. Most couples who do IVF usually do a round or two of IUI first.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #168

            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

            Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

            No, but he and his wife did undergo fertility treatments and he brought it up in the context of IVF. It's sorta like saying you carried a weapon of war (when you didn't go to war). The words aren't there, but the implication is. That's the definition of weasely.

            And the DNC still introduced him as Command Sgt Major the other day.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #169

              Hoo-ah!

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #170

                @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                Oops. Yes he did.

                In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #171

                  You've got more patience than I.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    I'm just picking one and looking into it, where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team. Does this mean the rest of your list is made up? BTW don't forget Trump had over 30,000 documented lies between 2017-2021. That's a lot of bullet points.

                    George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #172

                    @89th said in It's Walz:

                    where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

                    AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

                    He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

                    Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                      Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                      Oops. Yes he did.

                      In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                      89th8 Offline
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                      89th
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                      #173

                      @George-K said in It's Walz:

                      @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                      Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                      Oops. Yes he did.

                      In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                      Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                        where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

                        AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

                        He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

                        Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

                        89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        @George-K said in It's Walz:

                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                        where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

                        AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

                        He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

                        Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

                        I get your point, but the misinformation impression I find your list is the same as his approach. Now I can't trust George's lists! 😞

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                          Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                          Oops. Yes he did.

                          In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                          Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          #175

                          @89th said in It's Walz:

                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                          @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                          Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                          Oops. Yes he did.

                          In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                          Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

                          Yeah, but...As a politician, he knows that words mean things. IVF and IUI are different. Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major are different. Head coach and assistant coach are different. Europe and Iraq are different.

                          See a pattern emerging?😄

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #176

                            I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                            He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                            Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                              He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                              Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                              George KG Offline
                              George KG Offline
                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by George K
                              #177

                              @89th said in It's Walz:

                              He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                              That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                              Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                              One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                              ETA:

                              Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                              And...he didn't dispute it.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                              JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                              • 89th8 89th

                                I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                                He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #178

                                @89th said in It's Walz:

                                30,573 lies in 4 years

                                And you believe the source unerringly?

                                Lad, don't be an idiot.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @89th said in It's Walz:

                                  He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                  That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                                  Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                                  One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                                  ETA:

                                  Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                                  And...he didn't dispute it.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #179

                                  @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                  @89th said in It's Walz:

                                  He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                  That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                                  Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                                  One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                                  ETA:

                                  Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                                  And...he didn't dispute it.

                                  Wonder if 89th routinely claims to be Brad Pitt...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • 89th8 Offline
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                                    89th
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                                    #180

                                    I was Brad Pitt when I got married. I'll retire Rowan Atkinson, though.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @89th said in It's Walz:

                                      30,573 lies in 4 years

                                      And you believe the source unerringly?

                                      Lad, don't be an idiot.

                                      89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
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                                      #181

                                      @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                                      @89th said in It's Walz:

                                      30,573 lies in 4 years

                                      And you believe the source unerringly?

                                      Lad, don't be an idiot.

                                      No it's just a chuckle that suddenly now you all care about being truthful. Trump tells more lies in one day than Walz in a decade.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #182

                                        It does seem rather odd to spend such time parsing statements, act indignant when he didn’t correct someone else’s misrepresentation, then go pull a lever for Donald Trump.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          It seems to me when it comes to Trump's statements, @Jolly usually just say "I know what he means." 😄

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