It's Walz

[George K]

Update on the lies that Tim Walz has told:

• Being an Afghan veteran
• Being a command sgt major
• Conceiving his children through IVF
• Knowing his unit was being deployed
• Carrying weapons into war
• Being a head football coach
• Lying about being deaf to get out of a DUI

[89th]

I'm just picking one and looking into it, where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team. Does this mean the rest of your list is made up? BTW don't forget Trump had over 30,000 documented lies between 2017-2021. That's a lot of bullet points.

[jon-nyc]

I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

[89th]

Plus if he said IVF but really did IUI, most people don't know what IUI is but know what IVF is. IUI is like the JV version of IVF btw. Most couples who do IVF usually do a round or two of IUI first.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

No, but he and his wife did undergo fertility treatments and he brought it up in the context of IVF. It's sorta like saying you carried a weapon of war (when you didn't go to war). The words aren't there, but the implication is. That's the definition of weasely.

And the DNC still introduced him as Command Sgt Major the other day.

[Jolly]

Hoo-ah!

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

Oops. Yes he did.

In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

[Jolly]

You've got more patience than I.

[George K]

@89th said in It's Walz:

where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

[89th]

@George-K said in It's Walz:

@jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

Oops. Yes he did.

In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

[89th]

@George-K said in It's Walz:

@89th said in It's Walz:

where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

I get your point, but the misinformation impression I find your list is the same as his approach. Now I can't trust George's lists!

[Jolly]

@89th said in It's Walz:

@George-K said in It's Walz:

@jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

Oops. Yes he did.

In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

Yeah, but...As a politician, he knows that words mean things. IVF and IUI are different. Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major are different. Head coach and assistant coach are different. Europe and Iraq are different.

See a pattern emerging?

[89th]

I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

[George K]

@89th said in It's Walz:

He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

One can be factual without being completely truthful.

ETA:

Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

And...he didn't dispute it.

[Jolly]

@89th said in It's Walz:

30,573 lies in 4 years

And you believe the source unerringly?

Lad, don't be an idiot.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in It's Walz:

@89th said in It's Walz:

He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

One can be factual without being completely truthful.

ETA:

Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

And...he didn't dispute it.

Wonder if 89th routinely claims to be Brad Pitt...

[89th]

I was Brad Pitt when I got married. I'll retire Rowan Atkinson, though.

[89th]

@Jolly said in It's Walz:

@89th said in It's Walz:

30,573 lies in 4 years

And you believe the source unerringly?

Lad, don't be an idiot.

No it's just a chuckle that suddenly now you all care about being truthful. Trump tells more lies in one day than Walz in a decade.

[jon-nyc]

It does seem rather odd to spend such time parsing statements, act indignant when he didn’t correct someone else’s misrepresentation, then go pull a lever for Donald Trump.

[Axtremus]

It seems to me when it comes to Trump's statements, @Jolly usually just say "I know what he means."