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    George K
    wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 17:12 last edited by
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    He never explicitly says we had IVF, but it's certainly implied.

    Uh, no Governor. You did NOT have children through IVF.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 17:13 last edited by
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      Update on the lies that Tim Walz has told:

      • Being an Afghan veteran
      • Being a command sgt major
      • Conceiving his children through IVF
      • Knowing his unit was being deployed
      • Carrying weapons into war
      • Being a head football coach
      • Lying about being deaf to get out of a DUI

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        89th
        wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 17:19 last edited by
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        I'm just picking one and looking into it, where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team. Does this mean the rest of your list is made up? BTW don't forget Trump had over 30,000 documented lies between 2017-2021. That's a lot of bullet points.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 17:23 last edited by
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          I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            89th
            wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 17:27 last edited by 89th
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            Plus if he said IVF but really did IUI, most people don't know what IUI is but know what IVF is. IUI is like the JV version of IVF btw. Most couples who do IVF usually do a round or two of IUI first.

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              20 Aug 2024, 17:23

              I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

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              George K
              wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 18:08 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

              Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

              No, but he and his wife did undergo fertility treatments and he brought it up in the context of IVF. It's sorta like saying you carried a weapon of war (when you didn't go to war). The words aren't there, but the implication is. That's the definition of weasely.

              And the DNC still introduced him as Command Sgt Major the other day.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 19:37 last edited by
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                Hoo-ah!

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  20 Aug 2024, 17:23

                  I can imagine saying IVF is personal to you because you had fertility challenges so you relate to others that do too. Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

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                  George K
                  wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 22:30 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                  Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                  Oops. Yes he did.

                  In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 23:12 last edited by
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                    You've got more patience than I.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • 8 89th
                      20 Aug 2024, 17:19

                      I'm just picking one and looking into it, where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team. Does this mean the rest of your list is made up? BTW don't forget Trump had over 30,000 documented lies between 2017-2021. That's a lot of bullet points.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 20 Aug 2024, 23:24 last edited by
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                      @89th said in It's Walz:

                      where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

                      AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

                      He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

                      Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • G George K
                        20 Aug 2024, 22:30

                        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                        Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                        Oops. Yes he did.

                        In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

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                        89th
                        wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:03 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in It's Walz:

                        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                        Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                        Oops. Yes he did.

                        In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                        Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

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                        • G George K
                          20 Aug 2024, 23:24

                          @89th said in It's Walz:

                          where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

                          AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

                          He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

                          Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

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                          89th
                          wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:04 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                          @89th said in It's Walz:

                          where did Walz say he was a head football coach? He was a coach of a football team.

                          AFAIK, he never did. But, just like the other weasely things, he said he "coached a football team." Campaign literature showing "Coach Walz."

                          He was a volunteer, unpaid, coach.

                          Again, what he said was not really a lie, but the impression....

                          I get your point, but the misinformation impression I find your list is the same as his approach. Now I can't trust George's lists! 😞

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                            21 Aug 2024, 12:03

                            @George-K said in It's Walz:

                            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                            Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                            Oops. Yes he did.

                            In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                            Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:11 last edited by
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                            @89th said in It's Walz:

                            @George-K said in It's Walz:

                            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                            Did he ever claim his kids were the result of IVF?

                            Oops. Yes he did.

                            In April, the Tim Walz for Governor campaign office mailed out a fund-raising letter in an envelope that read: “My wife and I used I.V.F. to start a family.’’

                            Not to play defense, but we used IUI and IVF (for our first kid) and I can tell you 90% of the time when the topic comes up with friends or family we just summarize it all as "we used IVF" since it takes some time to describe how IUI is different. So I can see why they wouldn't specify IUI in the mailer.

                            Yeah, but...As a politician, he knows that words mean things. IVF and IUI are different. Sergeant Major and Command Sergeant Major are different. Head coach and assistant coach are different. Europe and Iraq are different.

                            See a pattern emerging?😄

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              89th
                              wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 12:58 last edited by
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                              I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                              He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                              Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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                                21 Aug 2024, 12:58

                                I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                                He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 13:04 last edited by George K
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                                @89th said in It's Walz:

                                He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                                Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                                One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                                ETA:

                                Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                                And...he didn't dispute it.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  21 Aug 2024, 12:58

                                  I really love the scrutiny here. It's nice to see an appreciation for the truth, finally. (30,573 lies in 4 years)

                                  He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                  Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 13:12 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in It's Walz:

                                  30,573 lies in 4 years

                                  And you believe the source unerringly?

                                  Lad, don't be an idiot.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • G George K
                                    21 Aug 2024, 13:04

                                    @89th said in It's Walz:

                                    He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                    That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                                    Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                                    One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                                    ETA:

                                    Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                                    And...he didn't dispute it.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 13:14 last edited by
                                    #179

                                    @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                    @89th said in It's Walz:

                                    He WAS a command sergeant major, and most clips have him saying "I was a command sergeant major" which is accurate.

                                    That's like being a general, and being busted down to a major and saying "I was a general."

                                    Or like me saying "I'm a New Yorker."

                                    One can be factual without being completely truthful.

                                    ETA:

                                    Yes there are a few clips where he (or normally, someone else says to him) "you are a retired command sergeant major" which is not accurate since he retired at as a sergeant major.

                                    And...he didn't dispute it.

                                    Wonder if 89th routinely claims to be Brad Pitt...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 14:36 last edited by
                                      #180

                                      I was Brad Pitt when I got married. I'll retire Rowan Atkinson, though.

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        21 Aug 2024, 13:12

                                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                                        30,573 lies in 4 years

                                        And you believe the source unerringly?

                                        Lad, don't be an idiot.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 14:37 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                                        30,573 lies in 4 years

                                        And you believe the source unerringly?

                                        Lad, don't be an idiot.

                                        No it's just a chuckle that suddenly now you all care about being truthful. Trump tells more lies in one day than Walz in a decade.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 21 Aug 2024, 14:46 last edited by
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                                          It does seem rather odd to spend such time parsing statements, act indignant when he didn’t correct someone else’s misrepresentation, then go pull a lever for Donald Trump.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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