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  • MikM Mik

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    @Mik said in It's Walz:

    89th? Paging 89th....

    Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

    Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

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      @Mik said in It's Walz:

      89th? Paging 89th....

      Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

      Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

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      @89th said in It's Walz:

      @Mik said in It's Walz:

      89th? Paging 89th....

      Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

      Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

      You vote your way into socialism, but you have to fight your way out.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @Mik said in It's Walz:

        89th? Paging 89th....

        Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

        Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

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        #124

        @89th said in It's Walz:

        Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job.

        So lying is not a big deal as long as it makes your life better.

        Got it.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • 89th8 89th

            @Mik said in It's Walz:

            89th? Paging 89th....

            Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

            Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

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            @89th said in It's Walz:

            @Mik said in It's Walz:

            89th? Paging 89th....

            Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

            Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

            In 2019 the state ranked 10th in the nation in public education. Today it's ranked 15th. That's called a trend https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

            Economic growth has trailed the national average by damn near 50%

            Crime rates started spiking in Minnesota in 2019, before anybody ever heard of George Floyd, and continued to rise through 2021. It's come down some following 2021, but is still above the 2020 levels during the Floyd riots.

            It still might be a great place right now, but is it as good as it was before Walz took office?

            The Brad

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              Don't be mad that Minnesota is ranked #4 and Virginia is #13!

              https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

              Semi-kidding. I come from a completely anecdotal place. I know the parks are amazing, I moved specifically into the best school district in the state, there is a surplus in the state budget that they have recently passed into areas like education in 2023, sure I'm not "downtown" but there is almost zero crime that I hear or see, the job market is full, health care is up there with the best... how much this has to do with Walz? Probably not much, just as the President doesn't really impact as much as we think, either.

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              • George KG George K

                @89th said in It's Walz:

                Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job.

                So lying is not a big deal as long as it makes your life better.

                Got it.

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                @George-K said in It's Walz:

                @89th said in It's Walz:

                Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job.

                So lying is not a big deal as long as it makes your life better.

                Got it.

                You'll have to catch me up. I haven't caught up with news since my vacation. I was asked how Walz did and I gave what the general impression is. Libs love him, conservatives don't, the state overall was doing very well, and continues to be ranked high or above average... if there is an issue with lying, I'll have the same reaction to it as I do with Trump's lies.

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                  No, you won't.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    LOL brotato chip, I don't support Harris/Walz in this election. If you put a gun to my head I would vote for Trump. Luckily there is no gun to my head.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @89th said in It's Walz:

                      @Mik said in It's Walz:

                      89th? Paging 89th....

                      Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

                      Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

                      In 2019 the state ranked 10th in the nation in public education. Today it's ranked 15th. That's called a trend https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

                      Economic growth has trailed the national average by damn near 50%

                      Crime rates started spiking in Minnesota in 2019, before anybody ever heard of George Floyd, and continued to rise through 2021. It's come down some following 2021, but is still above the 2020 levels during the Floyd riots.

                      It still might be a great place right now, but is it as good as it was before Walz took office?

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                      @89th said in It's Walz:

                      @Mik said in It's Walz:

                      89th? Paging 89th....

                      Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

                      Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

                      In 2019 the state ranked 10th in the nation in public education. Today it's ranked 15th. That's called a trend https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

                      Economic growth has trailed the national average by damn near 50%

                      Crime rates started spiking in Minnesota in 2019, before anybody ever heard of George Floyd, and continued to rise through 2021. It's come down some following 2021, but is still above the 2020 levels during the Floyd riots.

                      Crime has fallen most everywhere under Joe Biden.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @LuFins-Dad said in It's Walz:

                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                        @Mik said in It's Walz:

                        89th? Paging 89th....

                        Just got back from a lake vacation with the family (vacation = just a trip where we relocate the bedtime routine with kids) so I haven't read this thread or most other threads but....

                        Under Walz it seems we have a surplus (but also higher taxes), great schools, great parks, free school lunches for all kids, and one of the higher ranking states in most categories. So in my direct personal life, aside from the higher income taxes, he's done a great job. In terms of things that don't really impact me but I disagree with... his support for trans and abortion support and other liberal policies is not preferred.

                        In 2019 the state ranked 10th in the nation in public education. Today it's ranked 15th. That's called a trend https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

                        Economic growth has trailed the national average by damn near 50%

                        Crime rates started spiking in Minnesota in 2019, before anybody ever heard of George Floyd, and continued to rise through 2021. It's come down some following 2021, but is still above the 2020 levels during the Floyd riots.

                        Crime has fallen most everywhere under Joe Biden.

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                        @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                        Crime has fallen most everywhere under Joe Biden.

                        Violent crime had fallen as of 2020. Property crime rose.

                        https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-union/crime-justice/

                        Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until 2000. You might recall there was a little unrest at that time.

                        https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/tim-walz/was-tim-walz-right-that-violent-crime-was-up-under/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          https://www.the-express.com/sport/american-football/145268/Tim-Walz-high-school-defensive-coordinator

                          "I'm proud of that work because, look, I was the football coach," he said.

                          No, Gov Walz. You were not THE coach. You were AN assistant coach.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                            Crime has fallen most everywhere under Joe Biden.

                            Violent crime had fallen as of 2020. Property crime rose.

                            https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-union/crime-justice/

                            Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until 2000. You might recall there was a little unrest at that time.

                            https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/tim-walz/was-tim-walz-right-that-violent-crime-was-up-under/

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                            #134

                            @George-K said in It's Walz:

                            @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                            Crime has fallen most everywhere under Joe Biden.

                            Violent crime had fallen as of 2020. Property crime rose.

                            https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-union/crime-justice/

                            Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until 2000. You might recall there was a little unrest at that time.

                            https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/tim-walz/was-tim-walz-right-that-violent-crime-was-up-under/

                            I think we also have a problem in many cities with unreported crime. A problem that was not as prevalent a few years ago.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                              Crime has fallen most everywhere under Joe Biden.

                              Violent crime had fallen as of 2020. Property crime rose.

                              https://usafacts.org/state-of-the-union/crime-justice/

                              Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until 2000. You might recall there was a little unrest at that time.

                              https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/tim-walz/was-tim-walz-right-that-violent-crime-was-up-under/

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                              @George-K said in It's Walz:

                              Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until it didnt.

                              Well then that’s his record.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until it didnt.

                                Well then that’s his record.

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                                @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                Well then that’s his record.

                                And inflation rose to about 9% under Biden. That's his record too.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                  Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until it didnt.

                                  Well then that’s his record.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                  @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                  Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until it didnt.

                                  Well then that’s his record.

                                  Seem to remember at the time, that many Dem cities (such as in Minnesota) deliberately allowed the BLM protests to get out of control.

                                  The Presidency and down ballot races were at stake, you know. Footage of riots, ambulances and burning buildings help advance the incompetent theme of the party in power.

                                  Helps to have a complicit media, though.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @jon-nyc said in It's Walz:

                                    @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                    Overall crime fell under Trump as well, until it didnt.

                                    Well then that’s his record.

                                    Seem to remember at the time, that many Dem cities (such as in Minnesota) deliberately allowed the BLM protests to get out of control.

                                    The Presidency and down ballot races were at stake, you know. Footage of riots, ambulances and burning buildings help advance the incompetent theme of the party in power.

                                    Helps to have a complicit media, though.

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                                    @Jolly said in It's Walz:

                                    Seem to remember at the time, that many Dem cities (such as in Minnesota) deliberately allowed the BLM protests to get out of control.

                                    Walz told the cops to not intervene when a police station was going to be burned. Cops testified to that.

                                    The First Lady of Minnesota opened her windows during the riots because she found the smell of the fires "exhilarating."

                                    And don't get me started on paint-guns during COVID.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                      Maybe he means the war on poverty, or war on drugs, or war on illiteracy, or war on wokeness.
                                      Actually, I don’t know if he has been to those other wars either.

                                      Good point.

                                      It's possible, just possible, that he carried a weapon in those wars (though I doubt it for the last one in your list).

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                                      @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                      @Axtremus said in It's Walz:

                                      Maybe he means the war on poverty, or war on drugs, or war on illiteracy, or war on wokeness.
                                      Actually, I don’t know if he has been to those other wars either.

                                      Good point.

                                      It's possible, just possible, that he carried a weapon in those wars (though I doubt it for the last one in your list).

                                      Here's a fact checked summary of some of Walz's military statements btw:

                                      https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/08/12/walz-military-service/

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        Don't be mad that Minnesota is ranked #4 and Virginia is #13!

                                        https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings

                                        Semi-kidding. I come from a completely anecdotal place. I know the parks are amazing, I moved specifically into the best school district in the state, there is a surplus in the state budget that they have recently passed into areas like education in 2023, sure I'm not "downtown" but there is almost zero crime that I hear or see, the job market is full, health care is up there with the best... how much this has to do with Walz? Probably not much, just as the President doesn't really impact as much as we think, either.

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                                        @89th said in It's Walz:

                                        ... how much this has to do with Walz? Probably not much, just as the President doesn't really impact as much as we think, either.

                                        :couple_with_heart:

                                        @George-K @Jolly
                                        You can't have it both ways. The president is the president, both for good and bad. You can't say that the "good things" that happens while he was president were BECAUSE of him, and any "bad things" were IN SPITE of him.

                                        If I can put words in @89th mouth (which I agree with), it is never so black and white. Some of the good things that happened in President Trumps term were due to President Obama (of President Bush, or) policies, some due to President Trump, and some due to things that are outside the control of the US completely.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          https://www.the-express.com/sport/american-football/145268/Tim-Walz-high-school-defensive-coordinator

                                          "I'm proud of that work because, look, I was the football coach," he said.

                                          No, Gov Walz. You were not THE coach. You were AN assistant coach.

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                                          @George-K said in It's Walz:

                                          https://www.the-express.com/sport/american-football/145268/Tim-Walz-high-school-defensive-coordinator

                                          "I'm proud of that work because, look, I was the football coach," he said.

                                          No, Gov Walz. You were not THE coach. You were AN assistant coach.

                                          Well, thankfully he wasn't a couch as Vance would have fallen in love....

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