Ceding the Working Class
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@Larry Look at the video in the USA Today fact check. It shows all the ‘regular folk’ saying the phrase.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:35 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
@Larry Look at the video in the USA Today fact check. It shows all the ‘regular folk’ saying the phrase.
USA Today is one of the last places I'd turn to for checking facts. I know what I saw. Perhaps you need to stop getting all your information from propaganda.
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@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Unleash it on him, Horace!!!
You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.
IOW: Say it if you want people to think what you mean, but behind closed doors....
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:36 last edited by@George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:
@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Unleash it on him, Horace!!!
You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.
IOW: Say it if you want people to think what you mean, but behind closed doors....
Exactly. The thing is, Jon knows this.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:36 last edited by
"During two of those meetings – the LGBTQ caucus meeting and the Muslim Delegates Assembly – when the pledge was recited, "under God" was omitted"
Why are gays and Muslims against saying "under God?"....
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:37 last edited by
I’m sorry Horace I thought maybe you’d be consistent In classifying willful ignorance as lying. I should have known better.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:37 last edited by
in fairness, most of jon's non-TNCR friends would believe that Trump voters, behind closed doors, support Nazis and all those people. And I doubt jon goes out of his way to correct them. Not because he doesn't know better, but because he wouldn't want to be painted as someone who secretly likes Nazis.
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I’m sorry Horace I thought maybe you’d be consistent In classifying willful ignorance as lying. I should have known better.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:39 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
I’m sorry Horace I thought maybe you’d be consistent In classifying willful ignorance as lying. I should have known better.
Willful ignorance is lying, and if Larry or anybody else was being willfully ignorant of anything, they were lying. I'm not convinced he was.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:42 last edited by
Ok Larry, so you’re conceding the Democratic ‘regular guys’ did say it.
Just want to clear that up.
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wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:43 last edited by
This makes two things you lied about and then tried to accuse me of ignorance, Jon. Don't do it again or I'll make you listen to Ax play the piano for an hour...
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Ok Larry, so you’re conceding the Democratic ‘regular guys’ did say it.
Just want to clear that up.
wrote on 23 Aug 2020, 23:46 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Ok Larry, so you’re conceding the Democratic ‘regular guys’ did say it.
Just want to clear that up.
What the hell... I'm not conceding, that's what I've been saying all along. YOU are the one who switched from talking about the "regular people" to the public convention.
Come on, Jon. You're not this stupid.
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@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Unleash it on him, Horace!!!
You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.
IOW: Say it if you want people to think what you mean, but behind closed doors....
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:25 last edited by@George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:
@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Unleash it on him, Horace!!!
You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.
If the committee meetings' proceedings are not available to the public, how do you know that the "under God" part has been omitted?
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:28 last edited by
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@George-K said in Ceding the Working Class:
@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Unleash it on him, Horace!!!
You're right. In the broadcasted parts of the DNC convention, you know, the parts which the public saw, "under God" was included. In several committee meetings (not available to the public) it was omitted.
If the committee meetings' proceedings are not available to the public, how do you know that the "under God" part has been omitted?
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:30 last edited by@Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:
If the committee meetings' proceedings are not available to the public, how do you know that the "under God" part has been omitted?
You're right. I have no knowledge whether these proceedings are available to the public. Presumably they are.
However, they were not broadcast to the millions of people who watched the DNC convention.
Why were some parts which omitted the "under God" not broadcast while those parts which included it, indeed broadcast? Why are the Democrats ashamed to show diversity of opinion?
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@jon-nyc said in Ceding the Working Class:
Ok Larry, so you’re conceding the Democratic ‘regular guys’ did say it.
Just want to clear that up.
What the hell... I'm not conceding, that's what I've been saying all along. YOU are the one who switched from talking about the "regular people" to the public convention.
Come on, Jon. You're not this stupid.
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:30 last edited by@Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:
What the hell... I'm not conceding, that's what I've been saying all along. YOU are the one who switched from talking about the "regular people" to the public convention.
The "regular people" were shown in the publicly broadcasted parts of the convention.
Perhaps you are the one who is confused about who you think you were complaining about. -
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:32 last edited by
We must be careful in how much we show how much information is being withheld from democrats. Their heads might implode.
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@Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:
What the hell... I'm not conceding, that's what I've been saying all along. YOU are the one who switched from talking about the "regular people" to the public convention.
The "regular people" were shown in the publicly broadcasted parts of the convention.
Perhaps you are the one who is confused about who you think you were complaining about.wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:33 last edited by@Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:
@Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:
What the hell... I'm not conceding, that's what I've been saying all along. YOU are the one who switched from talking about the "regular people" to the public convention.
The "regular people" were shown in the publicly broadcasted parts of the convention.
Perhaps you are the one who is confused about who you think you were complaining about.I know who I'm talking about, cuck.
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@Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:
What the hell... I'm not conceding, that's what I've been saying all along. YOU are the one who switched from talking about the "regular people" to the public convention.
The "regular people" were shown in the publicly broadcasted parts of the convention.
Perhaps you are the one who is confused about who you think you were complaining about.wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:33 last edited by@Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:
The "regular people" were shown in the publicly broadcasted parts of the convention.
Perhaps you are the one who is confused about who you think you were complaining about.Why do you consider Muslims and LGBTQ people not "regular?"
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:36 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:39 last edited by
This one is from the queer caucus. The speaker is a male who thinks hes a woman, and a mermaid....
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wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 00:45 last edited by
And in other news, AOC is upset about Kasick getting to speak for 5 minutes but she was only given 60 seconds.
She said "You'd think they could at least given me a minute..."
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@Axtremus said in Ceding the Working Class:
If the committee meetings' proceedings are not available to the public, how do you know that the "under God" part has been omitted?
You're right. I have no knowledge whether these proceedings are available to the public. Presumably they are.
However, they were not broadcast to the millions of people who watched the DNC convention.
Why were some parts which omitted the "under God" not broadcast while those parts which included it, indeed broadcast? Why are the Democrats ashamed to show diversity of opinion?
wrote on 24 Aug 2020, 01:15 last edited by@Larry said in Ceding the Working Class:
Link to video
Thank you for the YouTube link. I am glad to see this. Here I will also address @George-K.
This is good. The publication of these videos, contrary to @George-K's assertion, shows that the Democrats are not afraid to reflect and publish different opinions.
@Larry, let me know if you think there are Republicans who, when they say the Pledge of Allegiance, will omit the "under God" part.
And @George-K, let me know if you think the Republicans will publish videos of committee meetings where in some Republicans say the Pledge of Allegiance without the "under God" part.
Frankly I am quite glad that there is a major political party in the USA that still has a tent big enough to include atheists, pantheists, polytheists, etc. As the technology people say sometimes, this is a feature, not a bug.
