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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #68

    Dumpster. Fire.

    And it will not be a "tweak or two" to fix this. This is a culture of laziness and apathy. A pathetic bureaucracy was directing boots on the ground secret service duties.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • kluursK Offline
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      kluurs
      wrote on last edited by
      #69

      From my understanding, it isn't unusual to "rely" upon local police for perimeter work, BUT it would seem highly appropriate to dedicate at least one Secret Service staff member to be a liaison AND be present to coordinate with the local police.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        The conspiracy theorists are driving me nuts…

        George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #70

        @LuFins-Dad said in Secret Service under fire:

        The conspiracy theorists are driving me nuts…

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          #71

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG George K

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            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #72

            @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

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            When you have the Chairman and Ranking Member on the same page, it's over.

            Go back to guarding Doritos, lady...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #73

              Git 'er done...

              https://www.tampafp.com/florida-rep-greg-steube-files-impeachment-article-against-secret-service-director-cheatle/

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #74

                Looks like she resigned.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #75

                  Gone.

                  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-director-cheatle-resigns-mounting-pressure-wake-trump-assassination-attempt

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by Mik
                    #76

                    She will be lucky to avoid prosecution. Her lack of enlightening information was deliberate.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #77

                      Difficult to imagine a worse train wreck than yesterday. I felt a little bad for her. But clearly the organization she helmed was dysfunctional.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #78

                        Gerry Connolly is calling for her to resign because she had no comment about whether the AR15 being legal was the cause. What a fucking idiot.

                        The Brad

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                        • kluursK Offline
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                          kluurs
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #79

                          Not specific to this case as I didn't watch any of the questioning, but I rarely feel terribly good about these kinds of hearings as it is all dinner theater - feigned outrage, goofy questions, etc. While having open hearings provides transparency, it rarely does anything to maintain or restore one's faith in government, the intelligence and/or sanity of the people who govern us or hope for the future.

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                          • George KG George K

                            89th8 Offline
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                            @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                            I'm not sure a whistleblower was needed for that. I presumed the building was outside the security perimeter because the Secret Service relied on local law enforcement to keep it secure and the local cops likely didn't take the building too seriously because it was hot out and, let's be honest, the idea of someone climbing on the roof and shooting when surrounded by so many cops, was likely the furthest thing from their minds.

                            A failure, for sure... but I can easily see how it happened.

                            Further, the security perimeter around these events is almost ALWAYS smaller than you think, with the ability for people to shoot guns from far away at the target. But the distance (difficulty) mixed with the ability to maneuver around secondary law enforcement, usually deters would-be assassins.

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #81

                              Then they better rethink. I hunted with several guys that shot bowling pins at 300 yards.

                              Check out the M4 qualification card:

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                              You can be a half-notch above piss-poor and still hit center mass reliably from a prone position at 150 meters (about 165 yards). I am a mediocre shot and I've never missed a prone shot at less than 300 yards on a standing (not running) deer or bigger animal. Two guys I hunted with never missed a shot (that I know of) at a running deer at less than 100 yards.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #82

                                A tongue lashing...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #83

                                  "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #84

                                    @89th you didn’t capitalize “silence “.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #85

                                      @89th said in Secret Service under fire:

                                      "Shaking and in silence" is a bit dramatic

                                      Dunno. Luna told her she wants her charged with perjury.

                                      And she might have the votes to do it.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #86

                                        That’s not how indictments work.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #87

                                          Didn’t we have an over/under on this resignation?

                                          I seem to remember saying August 1st. I was off by a week and a day.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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