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  • G George K
    22 Jul 2024, 18:20

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 20:01 last edited by
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    @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

    No, that’s DC bureaucracatese for “not my department”.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      George K
      wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 20:51 last edited by
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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 21:01 last edited by
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        What the actual fuck?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Horace
          wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 21:34 last edited by
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          Dumpster fire of an incident, dumpster fire of a coverup. I guess she'll stay until the news cycle moves on, then she'll resign.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 21:40 last edited by
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            I dunno, the heat will be high on this one.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 21:46 last edited by
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              The conspiracy theorists are driving me nuts…

              The Brad

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                George K
                wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 22:24 last edited by
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 22:31 last edited by
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                  Dumpster. Fire.

                  And it will not be a "tweak or two" to fix this. This is a culture of laziness and apathy. A pathetic bureaucracy was directing boots on the ground secret service duties.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    kluurs
                    wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 23:04 last edited by
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                    From my understanding, it isn't unusual to "rely" upon local police for perimeter work, BUT it would seem highly appropriate to dedicate at least one Secret Service staff member to be a liaison AND be present to coordinate with the local police.

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      22 Jul 2024, 21:46

                      The conspiracy theorists are driving me nuts…

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                      George K
                      wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 23:15 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Secret Service under fire:

                      The conspiracy theorists are driving me nuts…

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 22 Jul 2024, 23:45 last edited by
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                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • G George K
                          22 Jul 2024, 20:51

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 01:38 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

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                          When you have the Chairman and Ranking Member on the same page, it's over.

                          Go back to guarding Doritos, lady...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 01:43 last edited by
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                            Git 'er done...

                            https://www.tampafp.com/florida-rep-greg-steube-files-impeachment-article-against-secret-service-director-cheatle/

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 14:52 last edited by
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                              Looks like she resigned.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 14:53 last edited by
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                                Gone.

                                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/secret-service-director-cheatle-resigns-mounting-pressure-wake-trump-assassination-attempt

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 15:16 last edited by Mik
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                                  She will be lucky to avoid prosecution. Her lack of enlightening information was deliberate.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 15:21 last edited by
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                                    Difficult to imagine a worse train wreck than yesterday. I felt a little bad for her. But clearly the organization she helmed was dysfunctional.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 15:25 last edited by
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                                      Gerry Connolly is calling for her to resign because she had no comment about whether the AR15 being legal was the cause. What a fucking idiot.

                                      The Brad

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                                        kluurs
                                        wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 15:30 last edited by
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                                        Not specific to this case as I didn't watch any of the questioning, but I rarely feel terribly good about these kinds of hearings as it is all dinner theater - feigned outrage, goofy questions, etc. While having open hearings provides transparency, it rarely does anything to maintain or restore one's faith in government, the intelligence and/or sanity of the people who govern us or hope for the future.

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                                        • G George K
                                          22 Jul 2024, 22:24

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 23 Jul 2024, 15:30 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in Secret Service under fire:

                                          I'm not sure a whistleblower was needed for that. I presumed the building was outside the security perimeter because the Secret Service relied on local law enforcement to keep it secure and the local cops likely didn't take the building too seriously because it was hot out and, let's be honest, the idea of someone climbing on the roof and shooting when surrounded by so many cops, was likely the furthest thing from their minds.

                                          A failure, for sure... but I can easily see how it happened.

                                          Further, the security perimeter around these events is almost ALWAYS smaller than you think, with the ability for people to shoot guns from far away at the target. But the distance (difficulty) mixed with the ability to maneuver around secondary law enforcement, usually deters would-be assassins.

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