Trump - Butler, PA

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump - Butler, PA:

Guys, this is literally Hitler we are talking about. Why are you all upset?

I'm upset because we can no longer tell the difference between a douchebag who is conservative and Hitler.

I’ll choose to disagree with you, there. I find very little conservative about Trump and many of his stances.

Find me a dozen people in the entire world who (1) actually give a shit about that distinction and (2) are not somewhere on the right side of the fence.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Horace said in Trump - Butler, PA:

Conservative in common rhetoric does not have to do with classical conservative ideology. Ask the shooter whether Trump is conservative. Of course he would say yes.

[Jolly]

Watching Hannity interview RFK, Jr.

Man may be a nutter on some things, but he's a class act today.

[Renauda]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@Horace said in Trump - Butler, PA:

Conservative in common rhetoric does not have to do with classical conservative ideology. Ask the shooter whether Trump is conservative. Of course he would say yes.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

Did he mention Jack Smith, Fani Eillis, or Alan Bragg?

Jon, fuck you.

+1

Hey Pablo, welcome to the board! We don't get many new people here.

Tell us a bit about yourself!

[Jolly]

[Copper]

There are a lot of good questions in the comments.

I wonder if the secret service watched the guy shoot Mr. Trump. They shot the shooter so quickly they almost had to know he was there.

I can see there is room for lots of crazy theories.

[kluurs]

Flipping to Tik Tok they have a video of the secret service snipers taking shots at the sniper. There was a lot of video shot from many angles. It will be interesting to see this all sorted out.

[Jolly]

Speeding towards assassination...Bongino's predictive episode...

https://rumble.com/v3dl2pa-speeding-towards-assassination-ep.-2079-08312023.html

[bachophile]

At the NRA convention in May 2024, Trump called himself “the best friend gun owners have ever had in the White House”

Not sure that aged too well.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

Did he mention Jack Smith, Fani Eillis, or Alan Bragg?

Jon, fuck you.

+1

Hey Pablo, welcome to the board! We don't get many new people here.

Tell us a bit about yourself!

Pablo is one of my favorite posters. We’ve collaborated on Excel solutions.

[Horace]

I’m surprised that the secret service is so incompetent. I admit I bought into the mystique about them being the sort that handles their business at a very high level. Turns out they’re just like every other large organization, ruled by mediocrity and incompetence.

[LuFins Dad]

Reporting that it was a 20 year old kid from Bethel Park. Things might have changed, but Bethel Park was an upscale “swanky” community when I was a kid. Of course, in the town that I grew up in, Kohls and JC Penny’s were upscale, so…

I suspect the kid is going to be a caricature of the spoiled brat Antifa kids…

[Horace]

Yes I will be unsurprised if that is the case. And I’ll bet he will look like a low testosterone sort.

[Jolly]

@Horace said in Trump - Butler, PA:

I’m surprised that the secret service is so incompetent. I admit I bought into the mystique about them being the sort that handles their business at a very high level. Turns out they’re just like every other large organization, ruled by mediocrity and incompetence.

I think they still have some pretty competent guys, but any large organization has some problems...Dan Bongino was a Secret Service agent. He was on duty for 9/11. He's often said that when the records become public, people are going to be very surprised at the absolute level of confusion within the government.

I think I've also noted that Bongino has been told by his sources within the Secret Service that the Director has denied additional agents for the Trump campaign. Twice. The reason may be as simple as not enough agents and a high turnover rate due to the travel involved during a Presidential Election year (constant travel).

[jon-nyc]

You’d think a combination of drone footage and AI would make such a thing impossible. You’d imagine anything that looks like a man holding a rifle would be instantaneously recognized and localized.

[George K]

Another person claims he tried to notify...

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

You’d think a combination of drone footage and AI would make such a thing impossible. You’d imagine anything that looks like a man holding a rifle would be instantaneously recognized and localized.

Still takes human eyeballs to decipher. We don’t have drones everywhere, yet. And AI told us that Jimmy Carter was George Bush’s VP.

[Horace]

I don’t think anybody should get into trouble over this. If the secret service did its best, then that is all anybody can ask. Just like Biden and his candidacy.

[Jolly]

Secret Service does a prelim and threat assessment, but they are mostly concerned with the area within their secure perimeter. Magnetometers were in place and they weren't even letting grandmothers carry their shade umbrellas in the rally.

Outside the rally is the responsibility of local and state authorities. You may have some Secret service liaison personnel with them.

Just a SWAG, but there were apparently multiple camouflaged officers dispersed at different points. Maybe, just maybe, some of the hesitation in reaction was local law enforcement trying to confirm the shooter did not belong?