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  • P Pablo

    @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    Did he mention Jack Smith, Fani Eillis, or Alan Bragg?

    Jon, fuck you.

    +1

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    Doctor Phibes
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    #114

    @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

    Did he mention Jack Smith, Fani Eillis, or Alan Bragg?

    Jon, fuck you.

    +1

    Hey Pablo, welcome to the board! We don't get many new people here.

    Tell us a bit about yourself!

    I was only joking

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #115

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #116

        There are a lot of good questions in the comments.

        I wonder if the secret service watched the guy shoot Mr. Trump. They shot the shooter so quickly they almost had to know he was there.

        I can see there is room for lots of crazy theories.

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        • kluursK Online
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          kluurs
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          #117

          Flipping to Tik Tok they have a video of the secret service snipers taking shots at the sniper. There was a lot of video shot from many angles. It will be interesting to see this all sorted out.

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #118

            Speeding towards assassination...Bongino's predictive episode...

            https://rumble.com/v3dl2pa-speeding-towards-assassination-ep.-2079-08312023.html

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              bachophile
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              #119

              At the NRA convention in May 2024, Trump called himself “the best friend gun owners have ever had in the White House”

              Not sure that aged too well.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                Did he mention Jack Smith, Fani Eillis, or Alan Bragg?

                Jon, fuck you.

                +1

                Hey Pablo, welcome to the board! We don't get many new people here.

                Tell us a bit about yourself!

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
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                #120

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @Pablo said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                Did he mention Jack Smith, Fani Eillis, or Alan Bragg?

                Jon, fuck you.

                +1

                Hey Pablo, welcome to the board! We don't get many new people here.

                Tell us a bit about yourself!

                Pablo is one of my favorite posters. We’ve collaborated on Excel solutions.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #121

                  I’m surprised that the secret service is so incompetent. I admit I bought into the mystique about them being the sort that handles their business at a very high level. Turns out they’re just like every other large organization, ruled by mediocrity and incompetence.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #122

                    Reporting that it was a 20 year old kid from Bethel Park. Things might have changed, but Bethel Park was an upscale “swanky” community when I was a kid. Of course, in the town that I grew up in, Kohls and JC Penny’s were upscale, so…

                    I suspect the kid is going to be a caricature of the spoiled brat Antifa kids…

                    The Brad

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                    • HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
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                      #123

                      Yes I will be unsurprised if that is the case. And I’ll bet he will look like a low testosterone sort.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I’m surprised that the secret service is so incompetent. I admit I bought into the mystique about them being the sort that handles their business at a very high level. Turns out they’re just like every other large organization, ruled by mediocrity and incompetence.

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                        #124

                        @Horace said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                        I’m surprised that the secret service is so incompetent. I admit I bought into the mystique about them being the sort that handles their business at a very high level. Turns out they’re just like every other large organization, ruled by mediocrity and incompetence.

                        I think they still have some pretty competent guys, but any large organization has some problems...Dan Bongino was a Secret Service agent. He was on duty for 9/11. He's often said that when the records become public, people are going to be very surprised at the absolute level of confusion within the government.

                        I think I've also noted that Bongino has been told by his sources within the Secret Service that the Director has denied additional agents for the Trump campaign. Twice. The reason may be as simple as not enough agents and a high turnover rate due to the travel involved during a Presidential Election year (constant travel).

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #125

                          You’d think a combination of drone footage and AI would make such a thing impossible. You’d imagine anything that looks like a man holding a rifle would be instantaneously recognized and localized.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            George K
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                            #126

                            Another person claims he tried to notify...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              You’d think a combination of drone footage and AI would make such a thing impossible. You’d imagine anything that looks like a man holding a rifle would be instantaneously recognized and localized.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                              You’d think a combination of drone footage and AI would make such a thing impossible. You’d imagine anything that looks like a man holding a rifle would be instantaneously recognized and localized.

                              Still takes human eyeballs to decipher. We don’t have drones everywhere, yet. And AI told us that Jimmy Carter was George Bush’s VP.

                              The Brad

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #128

                                I don’t think anybody should get into trouble over this. If the secret service did its best, then that is all anybody can ask. Just like Biden and his candidacy.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Jolly
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                                  #129

                                  Secret Service does a prelim and threat assessment, but they are mostly concerned with the area within their secure perimeter. Magnetometers were in place and they weren't even letting grandmothers carry their shade umbrellas in the rally.

                                  Outside the rally is the responsibility of local and state authorities. You may have some Secret service liaison personnel with them.

                                  Just a SWAG, but there were apparently multiple camouflaged officers dispersed at different points. Maybe, just maybe, some of the hesitation in reaction was local law enforcement trying to confirm the shooter did not belong?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    The Secret Service will be chastised for this. But Mr. Trump is alive.

                                    "Having worked with the Secret Service before, as I was watching this unfold, I could not believe how long this played out before they got him off of that stage into the car, and then it took that vehicle that long to depart that area. It was a lifetime from a protection standpoint," former FBI Special Agent Jonathan Gilliam said during a special Sunday broadcast of "Fox & Friends First."

                                    "A lot of people on the news… didn't want to be critical of the Secret Service but, as I watch this again… I'm astounded at the way things played out because it appeared as though it was being that the defense of Trump and the movements off were being made up as they went along, and that is not the way this elite service should be prepared for this and carrying out these tactics and this type of situation."

                                    "If there had been a second shooter, there would have been plenty of opportunity to take him out again, so this breaks every rule of the Secret Service protocol and just general executive protection in general."

                                    https://www.foxnews.com/media/split-second-turn-trump-life-expert-god-watching

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Secret Service does a prelim and threat assessment, but they are mostly concerned with the area within their secure perimeter. Magnetometers were in place and they weren't even letting grandmothers carry their shade umbrellas in the rally.

                                      Outside the rally is the responsibility of local and state authorities. You may have some Secret service liaison personnel with them.

                                      Just a SWAG, but there were apparently multiple camouflaged officers dispersed at different points. Maybe, just maybe, some of the hesitation in reaction was local law enforcement trying to confirm the shooter did not belong?

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                                      Horace
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                                      #131

                                      @Jolly said in Trump - Butler, PA:

                                      Secret Service does a prelim and threat assessment, but they are mostly concerned with the area within their secure perimeter. Magnetometers were in place and they weren't even letting grandmothers carry their shade umbrellas in the rally.

                                      Outside the rally is the responsibility of local and state authorities. You may have some Secret service liaison personnel with them.

                                      Just a SWAG, but there were apparently multiple camouflaged officers dispersed at different points. Maybe, just maybe, some of the hesitation in reaction was local law enforcement trying to confirm the shooter did not belong?

                                      They might want to revisit the guidelines about ignoring everything outside their perimeter, if a gunman could easily take a shot from outside that perimeter.

                                      Link to video

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        George K
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Horace
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                                          #133

                                          You can be sure a well-glazed pinup of Thomas Crooks is on that man’s pillow as we speak.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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