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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #90

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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      #91

      We deserve better, between the constant stream of confusion and the constant stream of lies.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        89th
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        #92

        Old Man vs Con Man, they say.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

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          @Axtremus said in Debate tonight:

          Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

          If it gives @Jolly some joy, during the first 20-30 minutes even I found myself thinking "I want Trump back in office, maybe I'll vote for him".

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          • George KG George K

            Wow...look who's saying this.

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            Horace
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            #94

            @George-K said in Debate tonight:

            Wow...look who's saying this.

            Is it reasonable to extrapolate the decline curve? We have two very good points and we can forecast by their slope. Joe in 2028? Something approaching vegetable status?

            Education is extremely important.

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              If Joe stays in office, I don't think he'd survive beyond 2026. If he stays out of office, he might last a few more years. I get no pleasure in saying this, sorry if I said it before, but Joe.... he has the "look/sound" of someone nearing the end. The froggy old person voice, the transparent hair where you can see freckles on his scalp, the shuffle walk, the beady eyes, the open mouth stare. It's bad.

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              • 89th8 89th

                @Axtremus said in Debate tonight:

                Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

                If it gives @Jolly some joy, during the first 20-30 minutes even I found myself thinking "I want Trump back in office, maybe I'll vote for him".

                MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #96

                @89th said in Debate tonight:

                @Axtremus said in Debate tonight:

                Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

                If it gives @Jolly some joy, during the first 20-30 minutes even I found myself thinking "I want Trump back in office, maybe I'll vote for him".

                Me too. Then he lost it. Didn't answer the questions before him, went back to his same old tropes.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  @89th said in Debate tonight:

                  @Axtremus said in Debate tonight:

                  Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

                  If it gives @Jolly some joy, during the first 20-30 minutes even I found myself thinking "I want Trump back in office, maybe I'll vote for him".

                  Me too. Then he lost it. Didn't answer the questions before him, went back to his same old tropes.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #97

                  @Mik said in Debate tonight:

                  Me too. Then he lost it. Didn't answer the questions before him, went back to his same old tropes.

                  I thought that during the short bit I saw that Trump wasn't the same as in previous elections either. He seemed to be completely lacking in charm or any kind of personal connection. I'm not trying to downplay the Biden debacle because he was absolutely horrible, but Trump wasn't that much better. Does anybody really want either of those two to be running the place in 3-4 years time?

                  I was only joking

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    If Joe stays in office, I don't think he'd survive beyond 2026. If he stays out of office, he might last a few more years. I get no pleasure in saying this, sorry if I said it before, but Joe.... he has the "look/sound" of someone nearing the end. The froggy old person voice, the transparent hair where you can see freckles on his scalp, the shuffle walk, the beady eyes, the open mouth stare. It's bad.

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                    @89th said in Debate tonight:

                    If Joe stays in office, I don't think he'd survive beyond 2026.

                    He would literally “give his life serving the country.”

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      The odds that Merchan sends Trump to prison in July went up dramatically last night.

                      The Brad

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #100

                        Wonder if Manchin is kicking himself this morning?

                        The Brad

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                        • George KG George K

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Debate tonight:

                          malarkey

                          It's his trademark word for bullshit.

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                          Renauda
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                          #101

                          @George-K said in Debate tonight:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Debate tonight:

                          malarkey

                          It's his trademark word for bullshit.

                          It’s also a word I use when I tell my 17 year old he’s talking nonsense.

                          I don’t accept that it is an archaic word in the English lexicon.

                          Should be used here with impunity to put the resident cullions on notice.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • RenaudaR Renauda

                            @George-K said in Debate tonight:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Debate tonight:

                            malarkey

                            It's his trademark word for bullshit.

                            It’s also a word I use when I tell my 17 year old he’s talking nonsense.

                            I don’t accept that it is an archaic word in the English lexicon.

                            Should be used here with impunity to put the resident cullions on notice.

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                            George K
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                            @Renauda said in Debate tonight:

                            cullions

                            What a great word! Much cooler than saying "scrote."

                            From Middle English coillon, from Old French coillon (“testicle"; also, "a vile fellow, coward, dupe”), from Latin coleus (“a leather bag, the scrotum”).

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Renauda said in Debate tonight:

                              cullions

                              What a great word! Much cooler than saying "scrote."

                              From Middle English coillon, from Old French coillon (“testicle"; also, "a vile fellow, coward, dupe”), from Latin coleus (“a leather bag, the scrotum”).

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                              Renauda
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                              #103

                              @George-K

                              Yes, it has a more distinguished ring to the ear than the ubiquitously common vulgar derisive, asshole.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                #104

                                It leaves the vague idea that one is being derided.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • George KG George K

                                  NRO: One does not want to start a sentence with: “Number one, I didn’t have sex with a porn star . . .”

                                  NRO: Time for Democrats to come up with their own Great Replacement Theory

                                  Seen on X: "Those Robert Hur tapes must be awesome.

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                                  #105

                                  @George-K said in Debate tonight:

                                  NRO: One does not want to start a sentence with: “Number one, I didn’t have sex with a porn star . . .”

                                  True. I’d rather be able to say “Hell yeah, I’ve banged plenty of porn stars”.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    I heard an interesting thought. They dosed Biden too late. The particular drug cocktail might take a while to kick in, which is why Biden improved towards the end…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      I heard an interesting thought. They dosed Biden too late. The particular drug cocktail might take a while to kick in, which is why Biden improved towards the end…

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #107

                                      @LuFins-Dad my thought exactly.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        @89th said in Debate tonight:

                                        @Axtremus said in Debate tonight:

                                        Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

                                        If it gives @Jolly some joy, during the first 20-30 minutes even I found myself thinking "I want Trump back in office, maybe I'll vote for him".

                                        Me too. Then he lost it. Didn't answer the questions before him, went back to his same old tropes.

                                        89th8 Offline
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                                        #108

                                        @Mik said in Debate tonight:

                                        @89th said in Debate tonight:

                                        @Axtremus said in Debate tonight:

                                        Has the debate changed anyone's mind on whom to vote for comes the general election?

                                        If it gives @Jolly some joy, during the first 20-30 minutes even I found myself thinking "I want Trump back in office, maybe I'll vote for him".

                                        Me too. Then he lost it. Didn't answer the questions before him, went back to his same old tropes.

                                        Agreed. The debate was a "tap-in putt", to put it in golf terms for him. Trump's record (aside from the COVID impact) is great... a great economy, minimal international conflicts, etc. Biden is old, inflation sucks, the border is open, the Afghan disaster... this was easy for Trump to come in and crush.

                                        But when he did his typical answer to the question of whether he'll accept the election results, he lost me again. "Well if the election is free and fair..." Well, it was in 2020, you lost, you made shit up, you caused a riot, you disgraced the transfer of power. If he had just said "Absolutely, we've identified flaws in the system, the election will be clear this year, and I'll accept the results.... which by the way, will be me."

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                                          #109

                                          Trump got pulled in a little, but he actually stayed within his own limits, and there were several excellent moments by him.

                                          1. His original response to the January 6th question was excellent. Was it a deflection? Yes, but that’s the business. On January 6th inflation was low, Russia wasn’t invading Ukraine, Iran was bankrupt, yada, yada, yada… Excellent.

                                          2. The retaliation question. His reply that the way he will retaliate against his enemies by success… Very well done…

                                          Yes, Trump got pulled into some of his Trumpian responses, but that was always expected.

                                          I still won’t vote for either of them, but I will give Trump a win on this.

                                          The Brad

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