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  • George KG George K

    @89th said in D4 Update?:

    I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

    I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

    After that, the conversation goes, "Are in medicine? Ah, I see.

    What field? Oh, really,

    Where? You worked HERE?

    The good thing is that they don't have to go thru the preliminary explanations of shit. They can talk jargon and I can explain to D4.

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    @George-K said in D4 Update?:

    @89th said in D4 Update?:

    I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

    I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

    That happens to me all the time. And obviously I’m not a physician. But I am immersed in that world and the vocabulary sticks to me. ‘Hepatocyte’ falls from my mouth easier than ‘liver cell’. So they ask if I’m a physician and I say ‘no, but I spend too much time with them’ and explain my job.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @George-K said in D4 Update?:

      @89th said in D4 Update?:

      I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

      I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

      That happens to me all the time. And obviously I’m not a physician. But I am immersed in that world and the vocabulary sticks to me. ‘Hepatocyte’ falls from my mouth easier than ‘liver cell’. So they ask if I’m a physician and I say ‘no, but I spend too much time with them’ and explain my job.

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      George K
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      @jon-nyc said in D4 Update?:

      ‘Hepatocyte’ falls from my mouth easier than ‘liver cell’.

      Funny you should comment on that. When we last met, you were dropping all kinds of fancy-schmancy words that I haven't heard or used since medical school. I was surprised.

      You're obviously in a very different part of the world than I am was.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        89th
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        @George-K I'm sure the kid visits provided a nice emotional boost.

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          George K
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          By the way, that out-the-window view? See that green patch of land. That's where the VA Hospital used to stand. It was torn down, and nothing ever was built there.

          Considering the area, that block of land is worth many, many millions. It's never been developed, and the only explanation I can come up with is that it's federal land and not for sale.

          Screenshot 2024-06-28 at 7.35.32 AM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            89th
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            Seems refreshing, honestly, to have a bit of green space (and a good chunk of it) in the middle of all that steel.

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              @George-K hugs to you and D4. She is lucky to have you and Mrs. George nearby and willing and able to help and support.

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                Jolly
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                #27

                She's very fortunate to have two supportive and knowledgeable parents close.

                As for mom and dad wanting to help an ill child in any way they can... That's just part of being a parent. No matter if your child is five days or fifty years old (or older).

                If you ever have kids of your own, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it's hard to explain that ball of love, responsibility and concern that never goes away...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  @George-K Surgery still on for tomorrow (or today, if you're reading this in an hour or two)?

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                    Not going to be an easy day. My heart is with you and your daughter.

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                      Jolly
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                      Praying for a good outcome and pain relief...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Here too.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
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                          Gonna be a sonofabitch procedure. Her first fusion was open, so they have to open EVERYTHING up, see if it's compatible with what they're going to use, and if not, redo the whole thing.

                          Looks like it'll be 11 or so...so everyone's gonna have a long, long day.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Horace
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                            Good luck to her.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              Best of luck, and best wishes to all. I hope everything goes as smoothly and successfully as possible

                              I was only joking

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                                Sending prayers and best wishes.

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                                  Any word yet?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
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                                    Surgery started large ~ 3:45. Got an update at 5:30 - still working but no problems. I expect another hour.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      Surgery done at about 8:30 - about 4 ½ hours of work.

                                      This hospital keeps patients in PACU a LONG time, so I went home because I'm a geezer.

                                      Surgeon said that one of the screws from her previous fusion had broken; I wonder if that was the cause of her symptoms. Nevertheless, he's overall pleased with the outcome so far.

                                      After I got home (about 20 min ago), I received these texts from the hospital:

                                      Screenshot 2024-07-02 at 10.19.26 PM.png

                                      I'll visit tomorrow late AM.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        89th
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                                        Thanks for the update. I also hope, sort of, that the broken screw was the culprit.

                                        Hope you both get some very, very good sleep tonight.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Thanks for the update. I also hope, sort of, that the broken screw was the culprit.

                                          Hope you both get some very, very good sleep tonight.

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                                          George K
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                                          @89th said in D4 Update?:

                                          I also hope, sort of, that the broken screw was the culprit.

                                          Yeah, my thoughts as well.

                                          She did really well after her first fusion. Honeymooned, got pregnant, etc on NO MEDS.

                                          With luck we can reproduce this for a while.

                                          As @kluurs said, when you immobilize part of the spine, other parts have to pick up the function, so they get stressed unnaturally.

                                          The took her down to pre-op at 12:30. Her last dose of oral pain meds was at 9:30. They also disconnected the PCA (large, LARGE doses of hydromorphone). So, by the time it came for surgery, she had NOTHING on board for pain.

                                          Remember, this is not "back pain," This is NERVE pain. Nothing helps that other than sufficient narcotics so you just don't care.

                                          This is what nerve pain looks like...

                                          Screenshot 2024-07-02 at 10.32.10 PM.png

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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