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  • G George K
    27 Jun 2024, 17:47

    @blondie said in D4 Update?:

    Just a question George because I know nothing of these things, but are her surgeons orthopaedic surgeons or neurosurgeons?

    Neuro.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 27 Jun 2024, 18:22 last edited by
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    @George-K said in D4 Update?:

    @blondie said in D4 Update?:

    Just a question George because I know nothing of these things, but are her surgeons orthopaedic surgeons or neurosurgeons?

    Neuro.

    Only way to go with a back. I detest orthos doing back work.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • G George K
      27 Jun 2024, 16:12

      @89th said in D4 Update?:

      I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

      I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

      After that, the conversation goes, "Are in medicine? Ah, I see.

      What field? Oh, really,

      Where? You worked HERE?

      The good thing is that they don't have to go thru the preliminary explanations of shit. They can talk jargon and I can explain to D4.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 27 Jun 2024, 18:25 last edited by
      #17

      @George-K said in D4 Update?:

      @89th said in D4 Update?:

      I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

      I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

      After that, the conversation goes, "Are in medicine? Ah, I see.

      What field? Oh, really,

      Where? You worked HERE?

      The good thing is that they don't have to go thru the preliminary explanations of shit. They can talk jargon and I can explain to D4.

      They know, usually by the second or third sentence. Then, they cut to the chase. At least you understand everything. Being a dumb labrat, it sometimes goes over my head.

      I just nod and try to understand the biggest part.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        27 Jun 2024, 18:22

        @George-K said in D4 Update?:

        @blondie said in D4 Update?:

        Just a question George because I know nothing of these things, but are her surgeons orthopaedic surgeons or neurosurgeons?

        Neuro.

        Only way to go with a back. I detest orthos doing back work.

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        George K
        wrote on 27 Jun 2024, 18:27 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in D4 Update?:

        Only way to go with a back. I detest orthos doing back work.

        Gonna disagree with you, a bit.

        A well-trained ortho is probably fine for the non-complicated stuff. Emphasis on well-trained. I've seen some ortho guys do outstanding work. Former chair of ortho at Northwestern did all the scoliosis surgery there. He was really good.

        But, that said, it's rare, and I assume it's not a huge part of most residencies.

        Given the choice, I agree, neuro > ortho. But there are some fine ortho spine surgeons out there.

        D4's doc:

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          George K
          wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 01:20 last edited by
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          Staff bent the rules and let G2 and G3 visit (they are 6 and 2 years old).

          IMG_9577.jpeg

          I lived in this building in medical school.

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Jolly
            wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 02:50 last edited by
            #20

            That's great!

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • G George K
              27 Jun 2024, 16:12

              @89th said in D4 Update?:

              I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

              I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

              After that, the conversation goes, "Are in medicine? Ah, I see.

              What field? Oh, really,

              Where? You worked HERE?

              The good thing is that they don't have to go thru the preliminary explanations of shit. They can talk jargon and I can explain to D4.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 04:01 last edited by
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              @George-K said in D4 Update?:

              @89th said in D4 Update?:

              I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

              I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

              That happens to me all the time. And obviously I’m not a physician. But I am immersed in that world and the vocabulary sticks to me. ‘Hepatocyte’ falls from my mouth easier than ‘liver cell’. So they ask if I’m a physician and I say ‘no, but I spend too much time with them’ and explain my job.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • J jon-nyc
                28 Jun 2024, 04:01

                @George-K said in D4 Update?:

                @89th said in D4 Update?:

                I'm curious does the doctor enjoy talking with you more than most parents because of your medical knowledge? I'd imagine it's a nice change for him/her/they/them.

                I usually don't let them know. However, when I have questions, I end up using "the vocabulary."

                That happens to me all the time. And obviously I’m not a physician. But I am immersed in that world and the vocabulary sticks to me. ‘Hepatocyte’ falls from my mouth easier than ‘liver cell’. So they ask if I’m a physician and I say ‘no, but I spend too much time with them’ and explain my job.

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                George K
                wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 11:33 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in D4 Update?:

                ‘Hepatocyte’ falls from my mouth easier than ‘liver cell’.

                Funny you should comment on that. When we last met, you were dropping all kinds of fancy-schmancy words that I haven't heard or used since medical school. I was surprised.

                You're obviously in a very different part of the world than I am was.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 12:31 last edited by
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                  @George-K I'm sure the kid visits provided a nice emotional boost.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 12:36 last edited by
                    #24

                    By the way, that out-the-window view? See that green patch of land. That's where the VA Hospital used to stand. It was torn down, and nothing ever was built there.

                    Considering the area, that block of land is worth many, many millions. It's never been developed, and the only explanation I can come up with is that it's federal land and not for sale.

                    Screenshot 2024-06-28 at 7.35.32 AM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 28 Jun 2024, 12:46 last edited by
                      #25

                      Seems refreshing, honestly, to have a bit of green space (and a good chunk of it) in the middle of all that steel.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 01:27 last edited by
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                        @George-K hugs to you and D4. She is lucky to have you and Mrs. George nearby and willing and able to help and support.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 29 Jun 2024, 01:34 last edited by Jolly
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                          She's very fortunate to have two supportive and knowledgeable parents close.

                          As for mom and dad wanting to help an ill child in any way they can... That's just part of being a parent. No matter if your child is five days or fifty years old (or older).

                          If you ever have kids of your own, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Sometimes it's hard to explain that ball of love, responsibility and concern that never goes away...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            89th
                            wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 03:26 last edited by
                            #28

                            @George-K Surgery still on for tomorrow (or today, if you're reading this in an hour or two)?

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                              kluurs
                              wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 06:16 last edited by
                              #29

                              Not going to be an easy day. My heart is with you and your daughter.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 11:13 last edited by
                                #30

                                Praying for a good outcome and pain relief...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 11:41 last edited by
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                                  Here too.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 11:49 last edited by
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                                    Gonna be a sonofabitch procedure. Her first fusion was open, so they have to open EVERYTHING up, see if it's compatible with what they're going to use, and if not, redo the whole thing.

                                    Looks like it'll be 11 or so...so everyone's gonna have a long, long day.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 11:52 last edited by
                                      #33

                                      Good luck to her.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 12:22 last edited by
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                                        Best of luck, and best wishes to all. I hope everything goes as smoothly and successfully as possible

                                        I was only joking

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 2 Jul 2024, 12:23 last edited by
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                                          Sending prayers and best wishes.

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