Cruz files bill...
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All these considerations can be addressed in any legislation. The details are beside the point, which is that buying votes with taxpayer money is becoming the norm. Very bad.
@Mik said in Cruz files bill...:
The details are beside the point, which is that buying votes with taxpayer money is becoming the norm.
Historically, they have pandered more to campaign donors. Now they've broadened this to include normal people. Where will it end?
I was only joking
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Want to buy some votes? Stop taxing Social Security…
@LuFins-Dad said in Cruz files bill...:
Want to buy some votes? Stop taxing Social Security…
I could get behind that.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Cruz files bill...:
Want to buy some votes? Stop taxing Social Security…
I could get behind that.
@Mik said in Cruz files bill...:
@LuFins-Dad said in Cruz files bill...:
Want to buy some votes? Stop taxing Social Security…
I could get behind that.
Don't tell me, Mexico will pay.
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Y'all realize we're mostly talking about people who pay little tax?
And the silliness about corporate bonuses being labeled as tips is SAF.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Y'all realize we're mostly talking about people who pay little tax?
And the silliness about corporate bonuses being labeled as tips is SAF.
@Jolly said in Cruz files bill...:
Y'all realize we're mostly talking about people who pay little tax?
And the silliness about corporate bonuses being labeled as tips is SAF.
Yeah, these type of things never create loopholes that get abused!
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@Mik said in Cruz files bill...:
The details are beside the point, which is that buying votes with taxpayer money is becoming the norm.
Historically, they have pandered more to campaign donors. Now they've broadened this to include normal people. Where will it end?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Cruz files bill...:
@Mik said in Cruz files bill...:
The details are beside the point, which is that buying votes with taxpayer money is becoming the norm.
Historically, they have pandered more to campaign donors. Now they've broadened this to include normal people. Where will it end?
It won't as long as it's successful. It's very smart on his part. Now if he'd go for the no taxing Social Security regardless. Our RMD means 85% of our SS will be taxable. Tax on our taxes.
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Y'all realize we're mostly talking about people who pay little tax?
And the silliness about corporate bonuses being labeled as tips is SAF.
@Jolly said in Cruz files bill...:
Y'all realize we're mostly talking about people who pay little tax?
So, it's a meaningless policy?
And the silliness about corporate bonuses being labeled as tips is SAF.
I didn't say it was a tip, I said I got it for doing a good job, which is why Ted said he didn't want it taxed.
Of course, the only tip Ted Cruz has ever had was a funny orange colour.
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Not completely meaningless. I admire people who work, sometimes for little money.
Every little bit extra take-home helps...
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Not completely meaningless. I admire people who work, sometimes for little money.
Every little bit extra take-home helps...
@Jolly said in Cruz files bill...:
Not completely meaningless. I admire people who work, sometimes for little money.
Every little bit extra take-home helps...
Say, you're the same guy who also wants every one who makes money from work, not matter how little, to pay "income tax" (as opposed to paying only payroll taxes), right?
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Also, h/t @wtg :
Illinois politicians are rejoicing.
‘The Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that a federal anti-bribery law does not make it a crime for state and local officials to accept a gratuity for acts that they have already taken. Writing for a six-justice majority, Justice Brett Kavanaugh explained that state and local governments already regulate gifts to officials, and so the federal law “does not supplement those state and local rules by subjecting 19 million state and local officials to up to 10 years in federal prison for accepting even commonplace gratuities.” ‘
https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/supreme-court-limits-scope-of-anti-bribery-law/
“Gratuities” is just another word for “tips” … no tax for “gratuities” for politicians too, right?
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Let's be honest here for a moment, if Biden had proposed it, all the people who think it's a terrible idea would support it, and all the people who think it's a stroke of genius would be condemning it as pandering.
I was only joking
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Let's be honest here for a moment, if Biden had proposed it, all the people who think it's a terrible idea would support it, and all the people who think it's a stroke of genius would be condemning it as pandering.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Cruz files bill...:
Let's be honest here for a moment, if Biden had proposed it, all the people who think it's a terrible idea would support it, and all the people who think it's a stroke of genius would be condemning it as pandering.
Tax cuts are in line with your typical conservative platform. I'm fairly confident my "I can't get too worked up over this" point would have stood either way.
"Buying votes" is a very nebulous concept. Any tax cut can easily be categorized as such, for those motivated to do so for rhetorical purposes. Even as tax cuts might be economically advantageous for society overall.
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Let's be honest here for a moment, if Biden had proposed it, all the people who think it's a terrible idea would support it, and all the people who think it's a stroke of genius would be condemning it as pandering.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Cruz files bill...:
Let's be honest here for a moment
If we are being honest, even if this passes... I bet a substantial portion of cash tips a person receives is never mentioned on their tax return. Further, for many tip-based jobs, the person is likely in one of the lowest tax brackets already.
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It still makes some sense. The requirements for tip employees - like that they keep a daily log of tips received from customers or other employees. If they don't the government may just assess them for a percentage of sales. It's pretty ridiculous if you read it.
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It still makes some sense. The requirements for tip employees - like that they keep a daily log of tips received from customers or other employees. If they don't the government may just assess them for a percentage of sales. It's pretty ridiculous if you read it.
@Mik said in Cruz files bill...:
It still makes some sense. The requirements for tip employees - like that they keep a daily log of tips received from customers or other employees. If they don't the government may just assess them for a percentage of sales. It's pretty ridiculous if you read it.
Which is why many only report the tips that have some type of audit trail. Cash in hand disappears in the pocket.
