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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-807712

    Three Jewish families are among a group of nine Louisiana families with children in public schools who have filed a suit in federal court challenging a new state law that requires the Ten Commandments be displayed in all public school classrooms.

    The lawsuit — filed on the families’ behalf by Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, the American Civil Liberties Union and the Freedom from Religion Foundation — argues that the law enacted last week violates the First Amendment.

    Specifically, the complaint says that the language of the law “Approves and Prescribes One Particular Version of the Ten Commandments, to Which Many People Do Not Subscribe,” violating the Constitution’s prohibitions on establishing an official religion and prohibiting free exercise of religion.

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    @taiwan_girl

    Here’s another piece on the pending lawsuit:

    The legal action points out that a central pillar of the new law – the claim that there is a long tradition linking the Ten Commandments to public education in the US – is based on a fabrication. HB71 quotes James Madison, the fourth president, as saying: “We have staked the whole future of our new nation … upon the capacity of each of ourselves to govern ourselves according to the moral principles of the 10 Commandments.”

    That quote is fictitious; it is to be found in none of Madison’s writings or speeches. It appears to have been drawn from a conspiracy theory popularized by the late rightwing talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

    Full article:

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/24/louisiana-ten-commandments-schools-lawsuit

    Elbows up!

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      #63

      Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Not much different. Their is a little difference in bible exegesis.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

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          @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

          Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

          I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

          I was only joking

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            @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

            Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

            I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

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            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ten Commandments Required:

            @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

            Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

            I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

            Well, at least they have some guidelines, many are trying to live by them and they are aware of their failures.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ten Commandments Required:

              @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

              Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

              I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

              Well, at least they have some guidelines, many are trying to live by them and they are aware of their failures.

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              @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ten Commandments Required:

              @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

              Even Catholics and Protestants have (slightly) different versions of the commandments.

              I think the main differences are in which ones they choose to ignore.

              Well, at least they have some guidelines, many are trying to live by them and they are aware of their failures.

              'Twas but a joke.

              I was only joking

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                Not a great joke, but it is consistent.

                Anytime someone says Catholic, he says - Catholics are not perfect because they don't obey all the rules.

                It's not much of a joke, but I guess some think the irony is hilarious.

                People fail, then get up and try again, over and over, it is kind of like slapstick I guess.

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                • CopperC Copper

                  Not a great joke, but it is consistent.

                  Anytime someone says Catholic, he says - Catholics are not perfect because they don't obey all the rules.

                  It's not much of a joke, but I guess some think the irony is hilarious.

                  People fail, then get up and try again, over and over, it is kind of like slapstick I guess.

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                  @Copper said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                  Not a great joke, but it is consistent.

                  Anytime someone says Catholic, he says - Catholics are not perfect because they don't obey all the rules.

                  It's not much of a joke, but I guess some think the irony is hilarious.

                  People fail, then get up and try again, over and over, it is kind of like slapstick I guess.

                  My apologies if my little joke didn't meet your high standards at humour. Next time I'll try writing the same single word response over and over. That's always an absolute hoot.

                  I was only joking

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                    I was recently chastised for not treating the holocaust with the proper respect, and I've learned and grown from the experience. I think we can all learn a valuable lesson here as well.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      With standards we wouldn't last a week.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I was recently chastised for not treating the holocaust with the proper respect, and I've learned and grown from the experience. I think we can all learn a valuable lesson here as well.

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                        @Horace said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                        I was recently chastised for not treating the holocaust with the proper respect, and I've learned and grown from the experience.

                        I don’t recall any of that.

                        I think we can all learn a valuable lesson here as well.

                        Are you trying to be funny?

                        Elbows up!

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                          https://apnews.com/us-news/joe-kennedy-iii-church-and-state-texas-dan-patrick-donna-campbell-21a2e0674e92ca9ad0dcb8fa32a31fab

                          The Texas Senate on Tuesday advanced bills that would require public school classrooms to display the Ten Commandments and allow districts to provide students with time to pray during school hours.

                          Senators gave final approval to Senate Bill 11, the school prayer bill, on a 23-7 vote. It now heads to the Texas House for consideration. All Republican senators and three Democrats — Royce West of Dallas, Judith Zaffirini of Laredo and Juan Hinojosa of McAllen — voted for the bill.

                          Lawmakers also gave initial approval to Senate Bill 10, the Ten Commandments bill, on a 20-10 vote. Both proposals are on Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s list of priority bills this session.

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                            Good.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Are Hindu kids still allowed to have graven images?

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                                Did they have them 100 years ago?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • 89th8 Online
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                                  Be careful what you pray wish for.

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                                    It's nice to see Texas stepping up to the plate to address gun violence, which I think we can all acknowledge is a massive problem in the US, particularly in the south.

                                    Next time there's a school shooter they'll be able to point at the sign saying 'thou shalt not kill' and the whole thing will be taken care of'.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Did they have them 100 years ago?

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                                      @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                      Did they have them 100 years ago?

                                      Hindi kids have had them for a few thousand years. My coworker has one on his desk.

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                                        @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        Did they have them 100 years ago?

                                        Hindi kids have had them for a few thousand years. My coworker has one on his desk.

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                                        @xenon said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                        Did they have them 100 years ago?

                                        Hindi kids have had them for a few thousand years.

                                        Back when Jesus was a mere twinkle in God’s eye.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Be careful what you pray wish for.

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                                          @89th said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                          Be careful what you pray wish for.

                                          I like the 10 Commandments. Brief and effective.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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