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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Every election is "the most important evah!" or so I've been told since I've voted starting in 2000. I think DeSantis vs Harris is much more impactful than two nursing home residents fighting over the bridge table.

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    • 89th8 89th

      Every election is "the most important evah!" or so I've been told since I've voted starting in 2000. I think DeSantis vs Harris is much more impactful than two nursing home residents fighting over the bridge table.

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      @89th said in $300K:

      DeSantis vs Harris is much more impactful than two nursing home residents

      Agreed.

      Now, what are the odds of either of these geezers finishing their term? Jon posted an actuarial statistic that said the odds of Biden dying in the next 4 ½ years are about 12% iirc. I imagine Trump is not much better.

      Given Biden's other issues and the obvious decline in the last 3 years, I'd guess that 12% is optimistic.

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Every election is "the most important evah!" or so I've been told since I've voted starting in 2000. I think DeSantis vs Harris is much more impactful than two nursing home residents fighting over the bridge table.

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        @89th said in $300K:

        Every election is "the most important evah!" or so I've been told since I've voted starting in 2000. I think DeSantis vs Harris is much more impactful than two nursing home residents fighting over the bridge table.

        Was Eisenhower important? JFK? How about Nixon in '68? Reagan in '80? Clinton in '92?

        Yes, some are more important than others. This November is a watershed moment. I'm going to place it on par with Reagan for lasting impact.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          @George-K The 12% statistic was the odds of at least one of the two of them dying in the next 4 years.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            Trump has raised $2 million since his conviction.

            $2 million per hour.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              Trump has raised $2 million since his conviction.

              $2 million per hour.

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              @George-K said in $300K:

              Trump has raised $2 million since his conviction.

              $2 million per hour.

              Actually...The 24-hour total was $52,800,000.

              That's $2.2M/hr.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                Yeah, but with Bidenflation that works out to $837 in 2020 dollars.

                The Brad

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                  If it goes on for another week or two he’ll be able to pay his civil judgements.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    If it goes on for another week or two he’ll be able to pay his civil judgements.

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                    @jon-nyc said in $300K:

                    If it goes on for another week or two he’ll be able to pay his civil judgements.

                    Nah.

                    I believe that was donations to the campaign. He would never use those funds to...

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      I don't think the people donating the money care.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        I think you're right. I'd imagine it also depends how the solicitation is worded whether it is a campaign donation or not.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Trump didn’t use donated funds for the NDA. It was Trump Organization money. There was never any question that it was. The question at the center was whether the $150K paid counted as a campaign contribution. The FEC (the group with the responsibility to decide and prosecute such things) said no. The prosecutors of NY and Judge Merchan decided that they know Federal Election Law better than the FEC and just went with the assumption that it was. And then proceeded to tell the jury that it was… Kinda like, hey we are just going to assume that he murdered the guy, now you need to decide if he used a gun or not in the murder.

                          The Brad

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                            Trump didn’t use donated funds for the NDA. It was Trump Organization money. There was never any question that it was. The question at the center was whether the $150K paid counted as a campaign contribution. The FEC (the group with the responsibility to decide and prosecute such things) said no. The prosecutors of NY and Judge Merchan decided that they know Federal Election Law better than the FEC and just went with the assumption that it was. And then proceeded to tell the jury that it was… Kinda like, hey we are just going to assume that he murdered the guy, now you need to decide if he used a gun or not in the murder.

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in $300K:

                            The prosecutors of NY and Judge Merchan decided that they know Federal Election Law better than the FEC and just went with the assumption that it was

                            And they denied testimony regarding that.

                            Viz: Car crashes into building killing someone. Driver is accused. Defense wants to call expert witness that will show the brakes on said car are poorly designed and prone to fail. Judge doesn't allow expert witness.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Trump didn’t use donated funds for the NDA. It was Trump Organization money. There was never any question that it was. The question at the center was whether the $150K paid counted as a campaign contribution. The FEC (the group with the responsibility to decide and prosecute such things) said no. The prosecutors of NY and Judge Merchan decided that they know Federal Election Law better than the FEC and just went with the assumption that it was. And then proceeded to tell the jury that it was… Kinda like, hey we are just going to assume that he murdered the guy, now you need to decide if he used a gun or not in the murder.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in $300K:

                              Trump didn’t use donated funds for the NDA. It was Trump Organization money. There was never any question that it was. The question at the center was whether the $150K paid counted as a campaign contribution. The FEC (the group with the responsibility to decide and prosecute such things) said no. The prosecutors of NY and Judge Merchan decided that they know Federal Election Law better than the FEC and just went with the assumption that it was. And then proceeded to tell the jury that it was… Kinda like, hey we are just going to assume that he murdered the guy, now you need to decide if he used a gun or not in the murder.

                              You forgot...They also decided that somebody who was an expert in Federal election law should not testify.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                The other question I have and am not willing to read the transcript… How exactly did they mislabel the transactions? Lawyers regularly negotiate NDA’s and often pay out of their account with reimbursement from the client. Would that not count as Legal Fees? Honestly curious…

                                The Brad

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                                  Trump said that in his news conference. He hired Cohen as an attorney. Cohen was paid for his legal work. Trump's accounting firm posted Cohen's pay under the title of legal fees, as testified by Trump's lead accountant

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @jon-nyc said in $300K:

                                    If it goes on for another week or two he’ll be able to pay his civil judgements.

                                    Nah.

                                    I believe that was donations to the campaign. He would never use those funds to...

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                                    @George-K said in $300K:

                                    I believe that was donations to the campaign. He would never use those funds to...

                                    Of course they don't care how the funds are used.

                                    Tell them the donations will be used for hush money, they'll probably donate twice as much.

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