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    Mik
    wrote on 19 Aug 2020, 23:41 last edited by
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    The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Horace
      wrote on 19 Aug 2020, 23:41 last edited by
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      One can easily imagine a celebrity with a large following of young people having an effect on those followers in both who they vote for and whether they vote.

      Education is extremely important.

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        19 Aug 2020, 23:41

        One can easily imagine a celebrity with a large following of young people having an effect on those followers in both who they vote for and whether they vote.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 01:51 last edited by
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        @Horace said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

        One can easily imagine a celebrity with a large following of young people having an effect on those followers in both who they vote for and whether they vote.

        Seems kind of goofy, but I can understand it (I guess).

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          19 Aug 2020, 23:41

          The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 01:54 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

          The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

          Senator Sanders while running against VP Biden
          "VP Biden is the worst."

          Senator Sanders after loosing nomination to VP Biden
          "VP Biden is the best"

          In Senator Sanders mind, did VP Biden improve dramatically over a couple of months? LOL I dont think so.

          If we believe him then, why should be believe him now?

          Same with Senator Cruz and President Trump.

          If we believed all the stuff he said about President Trump then, why should be believe him now?

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            Horace
            wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 01:57 last edited by
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            In primate cultures, the lower rungs of the hierarchy imitate the higher rungs. Especially to young people, celebrity heroes are the quintessential upper rung. The cool-makers. The left is devoted to attempts to make its politics cool. I think the right has sort of given up on that angle and trusted the ravages and wisdom of age to do its work on enough human minds.

            Education is extremely important.

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              20 Aug 2020, 01:54

              @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

              The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

              Senator Sanders while running against VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the worst."

              Senator Sanders after loosing nomination to VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the best"

              In Senator Sanders mind, did VP Biden improve dramatically over a couple of months? LOL I dont think so.

              If we believe him then, why should be believe him now?

              Same with Senator Cruz and President Trump.

              If we believed all the stuff he said about President Trump then, why should be believe him now?

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              Jolly
              wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 02:10 last edited by
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              @taiwan_girl said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

              @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

              The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

              Senator Sanders while running against VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the worst."

              Senator Sanders after loosing nomination to VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the best"

              In Senator Sanders mind, did VP Biden improve dramatically over a couple of months? LOL I dont think so.

              If we believe him then, why should be believe him now?

              Same with Senator Cruz and President Trump.

              If we believed all the stuff he said about President Trump then, why should be believe him now?

              It's not the same between Obama and Biden. It simply does not work that way in politics.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                20 Aug 2020, 01:57

                In primate cultures, the lower rungs of the hierarchy imitate the higher rungs. Especially to young people, celebrity heroes are the quintessential upper rung. The cool-makers. The left is devoted to attempts to make its politics cool. I think the right has sort of given up on that angle and trusted the ravages and wisdom of age to do its work on enough human minds.

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                Rainman
                wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 02:58 last edited by
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                @Horace said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                In primate cultures, the lower rungs of the hierarchy imitate the higher rungs. Especially to young people, celebrity heroes are the quintessential upper rung. The cool-makers. The left is devoted to attempts to make its politics cool. I think the right has sort of given up on that angle and trusted the ravages and wisdom of age to do its work on enough human minds.

                True. But I have heard that there is a small but growing sense that being on the right is "cool."
                The problem with the term "conservative" is that it is somewhat synonymous with "constipated" with all the other associations e.g., old, old-fashioned, dad or grandpa's perspective, square, dirt farmer, hick, crew cut, on and on.

                There is, of course, the tendency for the young to go against the grain, "the Man" and confidently if blindly support the alternative, whatever it might be.

                And, there is enough social discourse about "brainwashing" of young people in K-16, so that perhaps there is a tendency to hear that word and then consider for oneself whether it is/was true. If the answer in reflection over time might be true, then I predict there will be a rather rapid movement towards the right, especially if teachers cannot spew their administratively imposed bias behind closed doors, out of earshot of parents (and, center or center-left / center-right teachers will just know to shut up).

                Or, Biden wins, and the republicans fade away, never able to be elected into majority positions pretty much anywhere.

                I wish that N Korea goof would lob a nuke somewhere. That would unite everyone that matters. Kinda extreme though.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 11:55 last edited by George K
                  #61

                  Seen on twitter: Did anyone notice what the Democrats didn't bring up during the convention?

                  They railed and railed against Trump but ignored a piece of history:

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 22 Aug 2020, 12:03 last edited by
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                    Everybody with an IQ equivalent to a rock or better, knew it was all political theater.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 11:43 last edited by
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                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/28/television-ratings-democratic-convention-edge-out-republican-convention/

                      “Across their respective four nights of programming, the Democratic convention averaged more than 20 million total viewers per night in the 10 p.m. spotlight viewing hour, compared with 17.4 million total viewers for the GOP convention.“

                      The TV viewership numbers are in. The Democratic National Convention has won the TV viewership comparison.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 11:50 last edited by
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                        A very good sign, as I said in the other thread.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Larry
                          wrote on 29 Aug 2020, 11:56 last edited by
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                          Both of you are idiots. Jesus.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 16:43 last edited by
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                            Post convention polls:

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                            Source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/ as downloaded on 2020-09-02 around noon Eastern Time.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 16:54 last edited by
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                              Just like 2016.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Larry
                                wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 17:16 last edited by
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                                Link to video

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                                • M Mik
                                  2 Sept 2020, 16:54

                                  Just like 2016.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 17:28 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                  Just like 2016.

                                  Every freaking election is the same here. I remember Larry congratulating President Romney on his wonderful victory.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 17:47 last edited by
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                                    If I had to guess today I would say Trump will be re-elected. But September 2 to November 3 is an eternity.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • M Mik
                                      2 Sept 2020, 17:47

                                      If I had to guess today I would say Trump will be re-elected. But September 2 to November 3 is an eternity.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 18:23 last edited by
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                                      @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                      If I had to guess today I would say Trump will be re-elected. But September 2 to November 3 is an eternity.

                                      It's certainly going to feel like one.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        2 Sept 2020, 17:28

                                        @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                        Just like 2016.

                                        Every freaking election is the same here. I remember Larry congratulating President Romney on his wonderful victory.

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on 2 Sept 2020, 20:48 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                        @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                        Just like 2016.

                                        Every freaking election is the same here. I remember Larry congratulating President Romney on his wonderful victory.

                                        One of the few mistakes I've made in my life....

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