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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #54

    The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Horace
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      #55

      One can easily imagine a celebrity with a large following of young people having an effect on those followers in both who they vote for and whether they vote.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        One can easily imagine a celebrity with a large following of young people having an effect on those followers in both who they vote for and whether they vote.

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        taiwan_girl
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        #56

        @Horace said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

        One can easily imagine a celebrity with a large following of young people having an effect on those followers in both who they vote for and whether they vote.

        Seems kind of goofy, but I can understand it (I guess).

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        • MikM Mik

          The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

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          #57

          @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

          The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

          Senator Sanders while running against VP Biden
          "VP Biden is the worst."

          Senator Sanders after loosing nomination to VP Biden
          "VP Biden is the best"

          In Senator Sanders mind, did VP Biden improve dramatically over a couple of months? LOL I dont think so.

          If we believe him then, why should be believe him now?

          Same with Senator Cruz and President Trump.

          If we believed all the stuff he said about President Trump then, why should be believe him now?

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            Horace
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            In primate cultures, the lower rungs of the hierarchy imitate the higher rungs. Especially to young people, celebrity heroes are the quintessential upper rung. The cool-makers. The left is devoted to attempts to make its politics cool. I think the right has sort of given up on that angle and trusted the ravages and wisdom of age to do its work on enough human minds.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

              The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

              Senator Sanders while running against VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the worst."

              Senator Sanders after loosing nomination to VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the best"

              In Senator Sanders mind, did VP Biden improve dramatically over a couple of months? LOL I dont think so.

              If we believe him then, why should be believe him now?

              Same with Senator Cruz and President Trump.

              If we believed all the stuff he said about President Trump then, why should be believe him now?

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              Jolly
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              #59

              @taiwan_girl said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

              @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

              The difference is Cruz was running against Trump. Obama was not running against anyone, much less Biden.

              Senator Sanders while running against VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the worst."

              Senator Sanders after loosing nomination to VP Biden
              "VP Biden is the best"

              In Senator Sanders mind, did VP Biden improve dramatically over a couple of months? LOL I dont think so.

              If we believe him then, why should be believe him now?

              Same with Senator Cruz and President Trump.

              If we believed all the stuff he said about President Trump then, why should be believe him now?

              It's not the same between Obama and Biden. It simply does not work that way in politics.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • HoraceH Horace

                In primate cultures, the lower rungs of the hierarchy imitate the higher rungs. Especially to young people, celebrity heroes are the quintessential upper rung. The cool-makers. The left is devoted to attempts to make its politics cool. I think the right has sort of given up on that angle and trusted the ravages and wisdom of age to do its work on enough human minds.

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                Rainman
                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                @Horace said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                In primate cultures, the lower rungs of the hierarchy imitate the higher rungs. Especially to young people, celebrity heroes are the quintessential upper rung. The cool-makers. The left is devoted to attempts to make its politics cool. I think the right has sort of given up on that angle and trusted the ravages and wisdom of age to do its work on enough human minds.

                True. But I have heard that there is a small but growing sense that being on the right is "cool."
                The problem with the term "conservative" is that it is somewhat synonymous with "constipated" with all the other associations e.g., old, old-fashioned, dad or grandpa's perspective, square, dirt farmer, hick, crew cut, on and on.

                There is, of course, the tendency for the young to go against the grain, "the Man" and confidently if blindly support the alternative, whatever it might be.

                And, there is enough social discourse about "brainwashing" of young people in K-16, so that perhaps there is a tendency to hear that word and then consider for oneself whether it is/was true. If the answer in reflection over time might be true, then I predict there will be a rather rapid movement towards the right, especially if teachers cannot spew their administratively imposed bias behind closed doors, out of earshot of parents (and, center or center-left / center-right teachers will just know to shut up).

                Or, Biden wins, and the republicans fade away, never able to be elected into majority positions pretty much anywhere.

                I wish that N Korea goof would lob a nuke somewhere. That would unite everyone that matters. Kinda extreme though.

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                  George K
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                  #61

                  Seen on twitter: Did anyone notice what the Democrats didn't bring up during the convention?

                  They railed and railed against Trump but ignored a piece of history:

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
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                    #62

                    Everybody with an IQ equivalent to a rock or better, knew it was all political theater.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2020/08/28/television-ratings-democratic-convention-edge-out-republican-convention/

                      “Across their respective four nights of programming, the Democratic convention averaged more than 20 million total viewers per night in the 10 p.m. spotlight viewing hour, compared with 17.4 million total viewers for the GOP convention.“

                      The TV viewership numbers are in. The Democratic National Convention has won the TV viewership comparison.

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                        #64

                        A very good sign, as I said in the other thread.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Both of you are idiots. Jesus.

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                            Axtremus
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                            Post convention polls:

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                            Source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/ as downloaded on 2020-09-02 around noon Eastern Time.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #67

                              Just like 2016.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Link to video

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Just like 2016.

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                                  @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                  Just like 2016.

                                  Every freaking election is the same here. I remember Larry congratulating President Romney on his wonderful victory.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    If I had to guess today I would say Trump will be re-elected. But September 2 to November 3 is an eternity.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      If I had to guess today I would say Trump will be re-elected. But September 2 to November 3 is an eternity.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                      If I had to guess today I would say Trump will be re-elected. But September 2 to November 3 is an eternity.

                                      It's certainly going to feel like one.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                        Just like 2016.

                                        Every freaking election is the same here. I remember Larry congratulating President Romney on his wonderful victory.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                        @Mik said in Democratic National Convention (DNC) 2020:

                                        Just like 2016.

                                        Every freaking election is the same here. I remember Larry congratulating President Romney on his wonderful victory.

                                        One of the few mistakes I've made in my life....

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