The Making of a Banana Republic
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@89th said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
As with 2016 and 2020, I will not vote for either, and if Biden wins, that's probably better for the country than Trump's impact, and also helps DeSantis beat Kamala in 2028.
So you give the power of your vote to whomever cares more about the results than you do. It's a vote for not caring, which is ok, but rarely owned by those doing the voting. It's just an interesting perspective to care so much about the degradation represented by Trump, while casting your vote for not caring whether he wins or loses.
@Horace said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
@89th said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
As with 2016 and 2020, I will not vote for either, and if Biden wins, that's probably better for the country than Trump's impact, and also helps DeSantis beat Kamala in 2028.
So you give the power of your vote to whomever cares more about the results than you do. It's a vote for not caring, which is ok, but rarely owned by those doing the voting. It's just an interesting perspective to care so much about the degradation represented by Trump, while casting your vote for not caring whether he wins or loses.
Yeah basically, or moreso it's a protest that I don't think either candidate is worthy (to me) to put my ballot in their box. If you FORCED me to pick, which is a fun thought experiment, I'd probably pick Trump just to get the bump in stock value and he's much more entertaining to watch on the news. Plus any SCOTUS vacancies...
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@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
@Jolly said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
If you like abortion on demand, at any stage of pregnancy, vote for Biden
I dont think this is true. Please provide info where he has advocate for on demand abortion at any stage.
His official position:
@Jolly That is as indirect as the quote I played from President Trump. So then, I guess that both candidates support abortion at any time. 555
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
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@Jolly That is as indirect as the quote I played from President Trump. So then, I guess that both candidates support abortion at any time. 555
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
@Jolly That is as indirect as the quote I played from President Trump. So then, I guess that both candidates support abortion at any time. 555
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
How do you know? Do you think you could pry out of Biden's mouth that he is for restricting abortion at 7 months? Has anybody ever pried that from his mouth, or the mouths of any progressive Democrat?
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@Jolly That is as indirect as the quote I played from President Trump. So then, I guess that both candidates support abortion at any time. 555
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
There are dozens of videos in which a pro-abortion politician is asked whether s/he supports the practice of abortion up to the moment of birth. You'll be hard-pressed to find one that condemns it. The response is invariably, "The right of a woman to decide what is right for her body...blah, blah, blah."
If you don't support it, say it. Because if you don't say it, you tacitly support it.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
There are dozens of videos in which a pro-abortion politician is asked whether s/he supports the practice of abortion up to the moment of birth. You'll be hard-pressed to find one that condemns it. The response is invariably, "The right of a woman to decide what is right for her body...blah, blah, blah."
If you don't support it, say it. Because if you don't say it, you tacitly support it.
@George-K said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
If you don't support it, say it. Because if you don't say it, you tacitly support it.
Agree. That is why the "arguement" works for President Trump also, based on his latest thoughts.
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@George-K said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
If you don't support it, say it. Because if you don't say it, you tacitly support it.
Agree. That is why the "arguement" works for President Trump also, based on his latest thoughts.
@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
That is why the "arguement" works for President Trump also, based on his latest thoughts.
My understanding is that he has "moderated" his opinion on the matter - setting an upper limit which is pretty consistent with what most European countries have.
Biden has not moderated.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
That is why the "arguement" works for President Trump also, based on his latest thoughts.
My understanding is that he has "moderated" his opinion on the matter - setting an upper limit which is pretty consistent with what most European countries have.
Biden has not moderated.
@George-K I do believe (and I think it is the obvious reality) that both candidates do not support on demand abortion at any time.
But it is not fair to say that President Biden is in favor of it and President Trump is against when the most recent statements from President Trump do not say that either.
It would be just as easy to say, that based on their recent statements (or lack of statements) both candidates have not spoken out against allowing abortion at any time.
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@Jolly That is as indirect as the quote I played from President Trump. So then, I guess that both candidates support abortion at any time. 555
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
@taiwan_girl said in The Making of a Banana Republic:
@Jolly That is as indirect as the quote I played from President Trump. So then, I guess that both candidates support abortion at any time. 555
(And I think we both know that is not the case. Neither of them do.)
Don't always take what a politician says or does at face value. Pay close attention to what they do or what they try to do.
Trump is pro-life. LuFin might argue with me because of Trump's softening on early term abortion, but that's pragmatic politics. If you can't get elected, you can't effect outcomes. Would Roe v. Wade have been overturned with Biden appointed justices?
Biden is pro-death. He mumbles about being Catholic, but Jesus taught that you would be known by your fruit. Biden has put no brakes on the most radical abortion advocates among his supporters. His Just-us Department has criminalized several forms of protest against abortion. Some leaders in his party have even talked about letting babies die after they are born. His White House position paper is very clear: Thou shalt not intervene at any point in a woman's pregnancy to stop the abortion process.
Now, what say you?
