More tipping insanity

[LuFins Dad]

@taiwan_girl said in More tipping insanity:

In speaking to a friend, he mentioned that Chicago has increased the minimum wage for waiters. It will increase until it equals the regular minimum wage.

Would this change your tipping or the % that you tip?

No.

[LuFins Dad]

But it will change others…

[89th]

Yeah I don't really care how much someone makes, waiter, haircut, cab, bartender, delivery driver... the scenarios where I tip.

[Mik]

If it’s great service, whatever they pay them is not enough.

[George K]

Are you sure????

[taiwan_girl]

@89th said in More tipping insanity:

Yeah I don't really care how much someone makes, waiter, haircut, cab, bartender, delivery driver... the scenarios where I tip.

How do you decide who to tip? Why pick those as oppose to dentist, car/bike mechanic, travel agent, anesthesiologist (LOL), etc.?

[89th]

Mostly tradition with what I grew up with. I know some professions (like waiters) are paid mostly in tips, so that makes sense whereas the others don't necessarily make sense I'll admit.

[jon-nyc]

Like any cultural practice you learn by observing those around you.

[Mik]

[89th]

Hahaha that is great. I'm surprised they didn't go for the knockout with a "Gen Z" pin on the employee's shirt.

[taiwan_girl]

People are tipping less at restaurants than they have in at least six years, driven by fatigue over rising prices and growing prompts for tips at places where gratuities haven’t historically been expected.

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Restaurant servers know customers are annoyed about how often they’re now asked for tips. Payment systems on digital tablets prompt them to add gratuities, even at businesses like airport concessions and gas stations.

“I can see tipping culture in the U.S. cracking,” said Jenni Emmons, a server at an upscale Chicago restaurant. “People are being pressured to tip for things they didn’t used to, and I feel my income is under threat because of this.”

Some worker-advocacy groups maintain that servers, bartenders and other tip-earning workers rely too much on gratuities. They have taken aim at the tipped-wage system, in which many states permit restaurants and other businesses to pay tip-earning workers less than the minimum wage—so long as income from tips makes up the difference.

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Fritz Brogan, who co-owns five bars and restaurants in the city, said the higher payroll costs have led him to raise menu prices by around 10% and trim employee hours. His Mission Navy Yard now charges $15 for an espresso martini, according to the restaurant’s website, up from $13 in 2023, according to an archived version of the site.

He is considering adding service charges next July, when the minimum wage for service staff rises to $12 an hour. That would add some $400,000 in costs across his 350 hourly staff, he estimated.

Brogan said the fees can leave diners confused and wondering whether they should still tip. “The last thing people want is to be doing calculus at the end of the night,” he said.

(NOTE BY ME - then have the prices be "all inclusive (price + tip + tax)!!!)

Mohit Ganguly, a Washington resident, said it’s easy to miss the mandatory fees that most eateries in his area have tacked onto their menus. “Tipping 15% to 20% on top of that feels superfluous,” Ganguly said.

https://www.wsj.com/business/hospitality/restaurant-tip-fatigue-servers-covid-9e198567

[jon-nyc]

Not insanity but it seemed like the right thread.

The conference had an open bar and buffet last night. I like to tip a little at these things. But I never have small bills.

I would actually have appreciated a little tap and pay device that gave the options $1 $3 $5 other.

Not that you had to press through to get your order, but just sitting on the side for you to use if you wanted to or ignore if not.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said in More tipping insanity:

I would actually have appreciated a little tap and pay device

Aqua's sister wasn't there with you?

[89th]

Hi oh!!!!!!!

[89th]

Smart idea Jon. I wonder if they did an experiment what would happen. Or at least a sign that says they can break big bills for change, I agree that's awkward when that happens and it's an open bar.

[jon-nyc]

At self checkout buying overpriced snacks.

They add 3% to help cover their staffing costs because the $7 liter of water doesn’t cover it.

Needless to say it’s not optional

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in More tipping insanity:

At self checkout buying overpriced snacks.

They add 3% to help cover their staffing costs because the $7 liter of water doesn’t cover it.

Needless to say it’s not optional

So much to unpack, here, but first we need to address the fact that you are buying Fuji “Artesianal” water while buying Lay’s potato chips….

[jon-nyc]

She’s eating the lays. The only other water option of 1L or higher was Dasani but I shall never knowingly purchase a Coca Cola product for as long as I shall live.

[Mik]

I buy Fuji water. It tastes better than other bottled waters.

And no, it's noy like a watch.

[Mik]

And Lays are regularly ranked the best potato chips.