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  • HoraceH Online
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    Horace
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    I went through a Starbucks drive-through this morning, and on the credit card machine they hold for you, you have to select your tip before inserting your card. There's no button for 0, you have to figure out the system to go through whatever custom menu that is. While dealing with sun glare and the shaky hand holding the machine for you through the window. So I chose the lowest number, $1 on my $4 order, and decided I probably wouldn't bother going back to Starbucks again.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #37

      If you do leave a tip, best to give it directly to your waiter in cash and pay the restaurant bill by card:

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/marketplace/tipping-marketplace-1.7395871

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Offline
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        Yes. Cash leaves no trace.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • HoraceH Horace

          I went through a Starbucks drive-through this morning, and on the credit card machine they hold for you, you have to select your tip before inserting your card. There's no button for 0, you have to figure out the system to go through whatever custom menu that is. While dealing with sun glare and the shaky hand holding the machine for you through the window. So I chose the lowest number, $1 on my $4 order, and decided I probably wouldn't bother going back to Starbucks again.

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          89th
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          #39

          @Horace said in More tipping insanity:

          I went through a Starbucks drive-through this morning, and on the credit card machine they hold for you, you have to select your tip before inserting your card. There's no button for 0, you have to figure out the system to go through whatever custom menu that is. While dealing with sun glare and the shaky hand holding the machine for you through the window. So I chose the lowest number, $1 on my $4 order, and decided I probably wouldn't bother going back to Starbucks again.

          That was just the universe balancing out when I went to Caribou Coffee on Thanksgiving day, I swiped my credit card and then I asked the guy where I can leave a tip. He couldn't figure out the machine and had to awkwardly get a coworker to come over and help. They finally figured out a way to manually type in extra, so I gave them a few bucks. I never tip at a drive thru / coffee place but they were the only place open on Thanksgiving, so I wanted to give thanks.

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            I tipped the waitress that served our lunch on Thanksgiving day 33%.

            The place was packed, the only thing open for miles.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #41

              And that’s why certain servers and restaurants do better with the tipping model. There are a significant number of people that want to tip excellent service. They don’t want to feel compelled through higher prices, though, and they don’t want to see poor service compensated the same as good service.

              The Brad

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                blondie
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                I just tip cash to the wait staff. What gets me are the high tip options for haircuts. Holy Guacamole.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #43

                  In speaking to a friend, he mentioned that Chicago has increased the minimum wage for waiters. It will increase until it equals the regular minimum wage.

                  Would this change your tipping or the % that you tip?

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    In speaking to a friend, he mentioned that Chicago has increased the minimum wage for waiters. It will increase until it equals the regular minimum wage.

                    Would this change your tipping or the % that you tip?

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                    #44

                    @taiwan_girl said in More tipping insanity:

                    In speaking to a friend, he mentioned that Chicago has increased the minimum wage for waiters. It will increase until it equals the regular minimum wage.

                    Would this change your tipping or the % that you tip?

                    No.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      #45

                      But it will change others…

                      The Brad

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        Yeah I don't really care how much someone makes, waiter, haircut, cab, bartender, delivery driver... the scenarios where I tip.

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                          If it’s great service, whatever they pay them is not enough.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Are you sure????

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              Yeah I don't really care how much someone makes, waiter, haircut, cab, bartender, delivery driver... the scenarios where I tip.

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                              @89th said in More tipping insanity:

                              Yeah I don't really care how much someone makes, waiter, haircut, cab, bartender, delivery driver... the scenarios where I tip.

                              How do you decide who to tip? Why pick those as oppose to dentist, car/bike mechanic, travel agent, anesthesiologist (LOL), etc.?

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                                Mostly tradition with what I grew up with. I know some professions (like waiters) are paid mostly in tips, so that makes sense whereas the others don't necessarily make sense I'll admit.

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                                  Like any cultural practice you learn by observing those around you.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Hahaha that is great. I'm surprised they didn't go for the knockout with a "Gen Z" pin on the employee's shirt.

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                                        #54

                                        People are tipping less at restaurants than they have in at least six years, driven by fatigue over rising prices and growing prompts for tips at places where gratuities haven’t historically been expected.

                                        and

                                        Restaurant servers know customers are annoyed about how often they’re now asked for tips. Payment systems on digital tablets prompt them to add gratuities, even at businesses like airport concessions and gas stations.

                                        “I can see tipping culture in the U.S. cracking,” said Jenni Emmons, a server at an upscale Chicago restaurant. “People are being pressured to tip for things they didn’t used to, and I feel my income is under threat because of this.”

                                        Some worker-advocacy groups maintain that servers, bartenders and other tip-earning workers rely too much on gratuities. They have taken aim at the tipped-wage system, in which many states permit restaurants and other businesses to pay tip-earning workers less than the minimum wage—so long as income from tips makes up the difference.

                                        and

                                        Fritz Brogan, who co-owns five bars and restaurants in the city, said the higher payroll costs have led him to raise menu prices by around 10% and trim employee hours. His Mission Navy Yard now charges $15 for an espresso martini, according to the restaurant’s website, up from $13 in 2023, according to an archived version of the site.

                                        He is considering adding service charges next July, when the minimum wage for service staff rises to $12 an hour. That would add some $400,000 in costs across his 350 hourly staff, he estimated.

                                        Brogan said the fees can leave diners confused and wondering whether they should still tip. “The last thing people want is to be doing calculus at the end of the night,” he said.

                                        (NOTE BY ME - then have the prices be "all inclusive (price + tip + tax)!!!)

                                        Mohit Ganguly, a Washington resident, said it’s easy to miss the mandatory fees that most eateries in his area have tacked onto their menus. “Tipping 15% to 20% on top of that feels superfluous,” Ganguly said.

                                        https://www.wsj.com/business/hospitality/restaurant-tip-fatigue-servers-covid-9e198567

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                                          #55

                                          Not insanity but it seemed like the right thread.

                                          The conference had an open bar and buffet last night. I like to tip a little at these things. But I never have small bills.

                                          I would actually have appreciated a little tap and pay device that gave the options $1 $3 $5 other.

                                          Not that you had to press through to get your order, but just sitting on the side for you to use if you wanted to or ignore if not.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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