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More tipping insanity

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #1

    “At Bistro Bis, a 22% service charge is included to (sic) every check. 18% is an automatic gratuity that goes directly to the service team and 4% contributes to our teams fair compensation and benefits.”

    So management takes a cut now.

    And there’s no opt out.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • KlausK Offline
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      Klaus
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      #2

      I don't get why mandatory tipping is legal. Isn't that merely a form of lying about the price?

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      • jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nyc
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        #3

        Yes. Hotels are doing it more and more with a daily ‘resort fee’.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          #4

          Washington DC area, right?
          Last time I was there, one restaurant added an automatic 20% tip to the check.
          I asked a staff member when and why that become a practice, and was told it's added during the pandemic and it helped them survive the pandemic. (No, I have no way to independently verify whether that's true.)

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          • jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nycJ Online
            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Yes DC

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #6

              Yeah that is BS. It's like they forgot the whole point a tip.... an extra way to say thanks for good service, not just another operating cost.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #7

                It's also like they forgot that the best way to stay in business is not to royally piss your customers off.

                I was only joking

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #8

                  I'll see your restaurant outrage and raise you a rent portal.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #9

                    Someone purchased the wrong software.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #10

                      That is hilarious.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #11

                        One of the things that pisses me off is that you have to actively choose not to tip on this shit. You have to select custom tip and put in $0. At a fast casual restaurant it’s awkward as hell (bad customer service) and in a completely non-tipping situation like above, you are going to have people that will mistakenly add tips…

                        The Brad

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
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                          #12

                          Yeah it's awkward but I've become used to it. As someone said (maybe in this thread?) "if there is a counter involved, a tip will not be". Overall I only tip for food delivery (like pizza), haircuts, waiters, and bartenders.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #13

                            I tip for to go if it is a place I’d tip for table service. But otherwise I agree with the counter approach.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Axtremus
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                              Some places put a lot of thought/work into the packaging of their "to go" orders. Sometimes to the point where it seems to me it takes them more work to put the food into the well-thought-out packaging than to simply put the food on a plate and serve. When I see that, I tip more.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I tip for to go if it is a place I’d tip for table service. But otherwise I agree with the counter approach.

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                                George K
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                                @Mik said in More tipping insanity:

                                I tip for to go if it is a place I’d tip for table service. But otherwise I agree with the counter approach.

                                447029058_8013669271976754_284890621102697375_n.jpg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  Some places put a lot of thought/work into the packaging of their "to go" orders. Sometimes to the point where it seems to me it takes them more work to put the food into the well-thought-out packaging than to simply put the food on a plate and serve. When I see that, I tip more.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Axtremus said in More tipping insanity:

                                  Some places put a lot of thought/work into the packaging of their "to go" orders.

                                  That's possible. I've never seen anything more complicated than wrapping up a Burger King Whopper, putting fries in a cardboard container and everything going into a sack.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    Example: a diner serves a fairly complicated menu item that comes as a meal combo with bread & butter, one entree, two sides, and dessert. Depends on which “entree” you choose, it may involves a fried or grilled item that you want to keep dry and sauce/curry/mashed potato that you want to keep separate from the fried/grilled item so they don’t mix together and become a soggy mess after you take them home. An order like this can easily turn into a six container affair. In my estimate it would probably take the kitchen staff more time/effort to package such a combo meal into a “to go” ensemble package than to serve them on plates.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      I tip for to go if it is a place I’d tip for table service. But otherwise I agree with the counter approach.

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                                      @Mik said in More tipping insanity:

                                      I tip for to go if it is a place I’d tip for table service. But otherwise I agree with the counter approach.

                                      That’s fair. Our family sometimes gets Olive Garden or Applebees or Chinese food to go, I’ll tip like 5-10% there since I know someone’s involved with package/review of the order.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        Example: a diner serves a fairly complicated menu item that comes as a meal combo with bread & butter, one entree, two sides, and dessert. Depends on which “entree” you choose, it may involves a fried or grilled item that you want to keep dry and sauce/curry/mashed potato that you want to keep separate from the fried/grilled item so they don’t mix together and become a soggy mess after you take them home. An order like this can easily turn into a six container affair. In my estimate it would probably take the kitchen staff more time/effort to package such a combo meal into a “to go” ensemble package than to serve them on plates.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @Axtremus good points.

                                        My understanding of a "tip" is that it includes a gratuity for those whom you never see - cooks, busboys, Maitre'd, etc.

                                        When I go downstairs to get a pizza, I usually tip about $5 just for that service.

                                        But, at a "fast food place," such as Mickey D's or BK, should I tip if I go to the counter rather than the drive-thru?

                                        (I haven't been to a counter at Mickey's in over a decade, so I don't know if tipping is even an option)

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          #20

                                          I tried to tip an Amazon driver the other day, as he'd offered to help us bring a very heavy box into the house. He wouldn't take it, said he was just doing his job.

                                          I was only joking

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