What’s happening at Columbia?
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 20:18 last edited by
Was listening to NPR in the car. Some professor was decrying the various administrations’ actions, saying that this is just students expressing themselves and learning how to research and analyze ideas. So these demands to divest, etc are all about education
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Was listening to NPR in the car. Some professor was decrying the various administrations’ actions, saying that this is just students expressing themselves and learning how to research and analyze ideas. So these demands to divest, etc are all about education
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 20:33 last edited by
A reasonable first approximation for why they're protesting, is some combination of status seeking and mate seeking. I would like to say there are ideological bases too, but I don't like to lie.
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 20:33 last edited by
Primate group identification
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 20:53 last edited by
@Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Primate group identification
"Apparently, you can put nose rings in sheep now."
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 21:26 last edited by
Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 21:57 last edited by
Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 21:59 last edited by
Has anyone at Columbia, or other schools, commented on the hostages?
Didn't think so.
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 22:02 last edited by
What do you think happens when a Columbia Alum send an application to Liebowitz, Goldstein, and Phipps next year?
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Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.
wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 22:03 last edited by@kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.
This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.
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@kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.
This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.
wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 22:21 last edited by@Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
@kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.
This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.
No protests at Luke’s school. Course, it’s a small college, and 1/3 of the incoming students go through a leadership program (they actually have a leadership minor that Luke is completing). The first 2 weeks? Dale Carnegie… -
Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?
wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 22:23 last edited by Renauda@LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?
That was okay. Just Arab Ba’athists and their Russian nanny working together to kill other Arabs. No loss, quite a few of them just needed killing.
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wrote on 24 Apr 2024, 23:34 last edited by
Saw a video of chairs and other objects being thrown at police.
Where have you gone, officer Byrd? A lonely nation turns its eyes to you.
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Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?
wrote on 25 Apr 2024, 00:48 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?
Exactly. Ask those protesters how many Palestinians have been killed in Syria?
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Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.
I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?
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wrote on 26 Apr 2024, 13:37 last edited by Mik
He can’t unless there are federal funding sources he’s referring to. Still, while I support the sentiment I think that should be self evident to any educational institution. If we need presidential involvement we are in big trouble.
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wrote on 26 Apr 2024, 14:00 last edited by
I think we're in big trouble.
I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.
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Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.
I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?
wrote on 26 Apr 2024, 14:29 last edited by@Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:
Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.
I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?
Only with legislation. But that idea has been floated already by the GOP.
The civil rights division of the DoJ could cause the universities quite a bit of pain on this issue if they wanted to, which would fuel individual lawsuits as well.