The future of the $50 minimum wage
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@Mik said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
I don’t like blocking.
I don't either as a baseline—I don't want to live in an echo chamber. But when someone continues to act like a troll it shouldn't be surprising they in turn get treated as such.
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Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.
The Brad
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Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.
@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"?
No, we said they'd improved communication between parents and children. You only have to look at a long line of teenagers all sitting together in the mall, texting, to question whether the improvement is there across the board.
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Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.
@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment.
Does have on employment. It's already well started.
My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.
- We already know that autonomy - community = narcissism and sociopathy. So your worry is well-founded.
- The same can be said of kids who grow up not learning the difference between learning an instrument and asking AI to make some bullshit for you.
We're still grappling with the fact that exercise is now a choice, and that it's better for us if we choose it. That's still a hard lesson to learn.
But now we're confronted with weird new choices. For example, we can now live without expressing ourselves, having rituals or living among a community. We aren't supposed to do that and the choice is making us crazy.
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Funny, didn't we have a conversation last week about how technology has improved and increased "interpersonal communication"? Cell phones now have adult children and their parents in closer contact than they have been in decades. At the same time, cell phones are taking away the ability to say "S'up?!" to a teenager standing behind a register ringing up our chicken nuggets. Now, while there are a few of us that I know will actually engage in conversation with bank tellers, cashiers, servers, etc... How many people really do? My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
My concern about this is the removal of the jobs. We've touched on the effect that AI and automation will have on employment. Touched on the economic challenges posed both individually and collectively. My concern is more about the mental well-being of society. Not because they aren't having interactions and communication, but the loss of purpose, loss of dignity, and loss of personal drive. Working as a cashier at a fast food joint may not seem like that much of a loss for most of us, but for a young person it can affect their learning work habits, commitment, how to function and relate in a team environment, and more.
@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
I do. My wife is worse. Before dinner is over, my wife will know the waiter's kids's names...
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@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
I do. My wife is worse. Before dinner is over, my wife will know the waiter's kids's names...
@Jolly said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
My guess is they are the exception and not the rule.
I do. My wife is worse. Before dinner is over, my wife will know the waiter's kids's names...
Waiters at restaurants is kind of a different feel.
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I hit on them. Does that count?
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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@jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
I hit on them. Does that count?
I know. Ahmed at the 7/11 in Lorton told me about it.
The Brad
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@jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
I hit on them. Does that count?
I know. Ahmed at the 7/11 in Lorton told me about it.
@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
@jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
I hit on them. Does that count?
I know. Ahmed at the 7/11 in Lorton told me about it.
He was pissed when he saw the way his wife looked at me.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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I agree with @Aqua-Letifer @Mik and @Holly
People are social and like to have interaction with other people. Any trend to decrease this is not overall good for society.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
@jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
I hit on them. Does that count?
I know. Ahmed at the 7/11 in Lorton told me about it.
He was pissed when he saw the way his wife looked at me.
@jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
@LuFins-Dad said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
@jon-nyc said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
I hit on them. Does that count?
I know. Ahmed at the 7/11 in Lorton told me about it.
He was pissed when he saw the way his
wifewives looked at me.FIFY
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And yeah, don't like this idea at all. Heck, on Saturday mornings I take my kids to the donut store. There is a kiosk to order from and 100 times out of 100 I take the kids up to the counter to order from the cashier. The kids need to learn how to interact and, honestly, it's cute watching them pick out their donuts.
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And yeah, don't like this idea at all. Heck, on Saturday mornings I take my kids to the donut store. There is a kiosk to order from and 100 times out of 100 I take the kids up to the counter to order from the cashier. The kids need to learn how to interact and, honestly, it's cute watching them pick out their donuts.
@89th said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
And yeah, don't like this idea at all. Heck, on Saturday mornings I take my kids to the donut store. There is a kiosk to order from and 100 times out of 100 I take the kids up to the counter to order from the cashier. The kids need to learn how to interact and, honestly, it's cute watching them pick out their donuts.
These are the days. I look back on those Saturday mornings going to karate, archery, the movies etc. with such pleasure. Then suddenly...'Dad I need the car...'
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Yeah I can appreciate I'm in the good old days while I'm in them. That being said, grass is often greener... the fight to get a coat or pair of shoes on will give me gray (sorry, grey) hair. And the fact that I am unable to have reliable time between 7-11pm or 4-6am to attempt a workout, is hard because I know I'm getting out of shape. And general lack of sleep isn't healthy either, I feel it each morning. That being said, I am 100% in no rush for the kids to grow up.
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Yeah I can appreciate I'm in the good old days while I'm in them. That being said, grass is often greener... the fight to get a coat or pair of shoes on will give me gray (sorry, grey) hair. And the fact that I am unable to have reliable time between 7-11pm or 4-6am to attempt a workout, is hard because I know I'm getting out of shape. And general lack of sleep isn't healthy either, I feel it each morning. That being said, I am 100% in no rush for the kids to grow up.
@89th said in The future of the $50 minimum wage:
That being said, I am 100% in no rush for the kids to grow up.
They get older, they don't grow up. At least, that's been my experience so far. Some people who shall remain nameless have very unkindly said something similar about the oldest member of the family.
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You must hang out in very different places than I do. Or maybe you’re mistaking twitter for real life.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
