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    Horace
    wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 13:23 last edited by
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    J6 is a perfect case in point of how a human with a perspective - not a bias, but a perspective - chooses words to describe reality. Without a perspective, one can't even generate words to describe anything. Was it a deadly assault on the Capitol? Sure, true. Was it a bunch of doofuses taking selfies? True. Was it an insurrection? I guess that is arguably true and not true at the same time.

    Education is extremely important.

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      19 Apr 2024, 13:23

      J6 is a perfect case in point of how a human with a perspective - not a bias, but a perspective - chooses words to describe reality. Without a perspective, one can't even generate words to describe anything. Was it a deadly assault on the Capitol? Sure, true. Was it a bunch of doofuses taking selfies? True. Was it an insurrection? I guess that is arguably true and not true at the same time.

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      George K
      wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 13:28 last edited by
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      @Horace said in Liz Lied:

      Was it an insurrection? I guess that is arguably true and not true at the same time.

      Schrödinger's rebellion.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 13:51 last edited by
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        Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

        The Brad

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 14:13 last edited by taiwan_girl
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          So, if I understand correctly, Capt. Nick is saying that Sec. McCarthy (who was selected and appointed by President Trump) decided to turn on President Trump and as Capt. Nick says (with no bias of course) "The U.S. government allowed the January 6 riots to happen in order to frame Donald Trump and his supporters as 'insurrectionists.'"

          Sorry, a bit skeptical that he is so unbiased. Seems like the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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            19 Apr 2024, 14:13

            So, if I understand correctly, Capt. Nick is saying that Sec. McCarthy (who was selected and appointed by President Trump) decided to turn on President Trump and as Capt. Nick says (with no bias of course) "The U.S. government allowed the January 6 riots to happen in order to frame Donald Trump and his supporters as 'insurrectionists.'"

            Sorry, a bit skeptical that he is so unbiased. Seems like the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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            Horace
            wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 14:54 last edited by
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            @taiwan_girl said in Liz Lied:

            Capt. Nick says (with no bias of course) "The U.S. government allowed the January 6 riots to happen in order to frame Donald Trump and his supporters as 'insurrectionists.'"

            I didn't hear that. Do you have a time stamp? Or is the quote, with quotation marks and everything, your own bias free, middle grounder words?

            I listened to what he said in that short video, and it seems he is providing evidence that there were opportunities to respond more definitively to quell the uprising, and they were not always taken.

            Education is extremely important.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 14:58 last edited by
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              I apologize. The quote I used from from what I thought was the transcript of Capt. Nick testimony that I read from the Twitter post. In the twitter post, it is appears that the quote I posted may have been from the guy who wrote the Twitter post. Kind of confusing to understand where one quote ends and the other begins.

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                Horace
                wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 15:31 last edited by
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                Your apology is accepted, TG. I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 15:35 last edited by
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 16:17 last edited by
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                    @George-K Guess I wasnt the only one confused! LOL

                    @Horace 555

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                      19 Apr 2024, 13:51

                      Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 17:07 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Liz Lied:

                      Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

                      I laughed at this for 4 hours then had to call my doctor

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                        19 Apr 2024, 17:07

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Liz Lied:

                        Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

                        I laughed at this for 4 hours then had to call my doctor

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                        George K
                        wrote on 19 Apr 2024, 17:32 last edited by
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                        @89th said in Liz Lied:

                        I laughed at this for 4 hours then had to call my doctor

                        Did he lie to Congress?

                        LOCK HIM UP!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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