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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #38

    J6 is a perfect case in point of how a human with a perspective - not a bias, but a perspective - chooses words to describe reality. Without a perspective, one can't even generate words to describe anything. Was it a deadly assault on the Capitol? Sure, true. Was it a bunch of doofuses taking selfies? True. Was it an insurrection? I guess that is arguably true and not true at the same time.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      J6 is a perfect case in point of how a human with a perspective - not a bias, but a perspective - chooses words to describe reality. Without a perspective, one can't even generate words to describe anything. Was it a deadly assault on the Capitol? Sure, true. Was it a bunch of doofuses taking selfies? True. Was it an insurrection? I guess that is arguably true and not true at the same time.

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      @Horace said in Liz Lied:

      Was it an insurrection? I guess that is arguably true and not true at the same time.

      Schrödinger's rebellion.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

        The Brad

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          #41

          So, if I understand correctly, Capt. Nick is saying that Sec. McCarthy (who was selected and appointed by President Trump) decided to turn on President Trump and as Capt. Nick says (with no bias of course) "The U.S. government allowed the January 6 riots to happen in order to frame Donald Trump and his supporters as 'insurrectionists.'"

          Sorry, a bit skeptical that he is so unbiased. Seems like the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            So, if I understand correctly, Capt. Nick is saying that Sec. McCarthy (who was selected and appointed by President Trump) decided to turn on President Trump and as Capt. Nick says (with no bias of course) "The U.S. government allowed the January 6 riots to happen in order to frame Donald Trump and his supporters as 'insurrectionists.'"

            Sorry, a bit skeptical that he is so unbiased. Seems like the truth is somewhere in the middle.

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            @taiwan_girl said in Liz Lied:

            Capt. Nick says (with no bias of course) "The U.S. government allowed the January 6 riots to happen in order to frame Donald Trump and his supporters as 'insurrectionists.'"

            I didn't hear that. Do you have a time stamp? Or is the quote, with quotation marks and everything, your own bias free, middle grounder words?

            I listened to what he said in that short video, and it seems he is providing evidence that there were opportunities to respond more definitively to quell the uprising, and they were not always taken.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #43

              I apologize. The quote I used from from what I thought was the transcript of Capt. Nick testimony that I read from the Twitter post. In the twitter post, it is appears that the quote I posted may have been from the guy who wrote the Twitter post. Kind of confusing to understand where one quote ends and the other begins.

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                Your apology is accepted, TG. I think we've all learned a valuable lesson here.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    @George-K Guess I wasnt the only one confused! LOL

                    @Horace 555

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Liz Lied:

                      Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

                      I laughed at this for 4 hours then had to call my doctor

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Liz Lied:

                        Don’t mind @89th , he’s just suffering from insurrectile dysfunction.

                        I laughed at this for 4 hours then had to call my doctor

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                        @89th said in Liz Lied:

                        I laughed at this for 4 hours then had to call my doctor

                        Did he lie to Congress?

                        LOCK HIM UP!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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