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Born in the USA

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  • 89th8 89th

    Bruce Springsteen’s song just came on the radio, and I had a thought, could you imagine this being released today?

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    Aqua Letifer
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    @89th said in Born in the USA:

    Bruce Springsteen’s song just came on the radio, and I had a thought, could you imagine this being released today?

    Would be fun to watch. People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

    Please love yourself.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @89th said in Born in the USA:

      Bruce Springsteen’s song just came on the radio, and I had a thought, could you imagine this being released today?

      Would be fun to watch. People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

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      Catseye3
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      @Aqua-Letifer said in Born in the USA:

      People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

      Luv that song. Feel like I shouldn't cuz of letting down the sisterhood, but wotthehell, cool is cool.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Born in the USA:

        People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

        Luv that song. Feel like I shouldn't cuz of letting down the sisterhood, but wotthehell, cool is cool.

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        @Catseye3 said in Born in the USA:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Born in the USA:

        People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

        Luv that song. Feel like I shouldn't cuz of letting down the sisterhood, but wotthehell, cool is cool.

        Probably the best example I think of for illustrating how rests breathe life into a guitar riff.

        Please love yourself.

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          Read an interesting story about the song. It was wrote to be a much more "down" song, but when the album was produced, they wanted a more "big arena" sound, so he recorded it like that. But it was originally written to have a depressed feel to it.

          Link to video

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            He's from New Jersey.

            He has a right to be depressed.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              He's from New Jersey.

              He has a right to be depressed.

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              @Jolly LOL

              A friend from Delaware told me that their state motto was:

              "At least we are not New Jersey!"

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                @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

                I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

                The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

                Link to video

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

                  I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                  Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

                  The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

                  Link to video

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                  @George-K Interesting!!! Thanks.

                  FYI, lyrics for the Born in the USA

                  **Born down in a dead man town
                  The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
                  You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
                  Till you spend half your life just covering up

                  Born in the U. S. A, I was born in the U. S. A
                  I was born in the U. S. A, born in the U. S. A

                  Got in a little hometown jam
                  So they put a rifle in my hand
                  Sent me off to a foreign land
                  To go and kill the yellow man

                  Born in the U. S. A...

                  Come back home to the refinery
                  Hiring man said son if it was up to me
                  Went down to see my V. A. Man
                  He said son, don't you understand

                  I had a brother at Khe Sahn
                  Fighting off the Viet Cong
                  They're still there, he's all gone

                  He had a woman he loved in Saigon
                  I got a picture of him in her arms now

                  Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
                  Out by the gas fires of the refinery
                  I'm ten years burning down the road
                  Nowhere to run aint got nowhere to go

                  Born in the U. S. A, I was born in the U. S. A
                  Born in the U. S. A, I'm a long gone daddy in the U. S. A
                  Born in the U. S. A., born in the U. S. A
                  Born in the U. S. A, I'm a cool rocking daddy in the U. S. A**

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                  • George KG George K

                    @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

                    I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                    Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

                    The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

                    Link to video

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                    @George-K said in Born in the USA:

                    I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                    Link to video

                    Please love yourself.

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                      https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706566556/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-american-anthem

                      An interpretation of what the song means.

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                        "The pride was in the chorus," Springsteen said to host Terry Gross in a 2005 interview. "In my songs, the spiritual part, the hope part, is in the choruses. The blues and your daily realities are in the details of the verses."

                        Yep, pretty obvious if you look at his songs.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Best summation of his work.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Best summation of his work.

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                            @Mik said in Born in the USA:

                            Best summation of his work.

                            He never interested me enough to think about it too much. I respect his work and life achievement, it just doesn’t float my boat.

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                              His music is populist garbage

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                That cannot be. He was the future of rock n roll.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  That cannot be. He was the future of rock n roll.

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                                  @Mik said in Born in the USA:

                                  That cannot be. He was the future of rock n roll.

                                  I am mentally scrolling through my heroes of music and trying to think of who the white ones from America are. I am coming up short in the moment.

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                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                                      Early Elvis was pretty good for a white guy. Later Elvis was frequently just plain embarrassing.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706566556/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-american-anthem

                                        An interpretation of what the song means.

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                                        @Loki Thanks Loki. Interesting article.

                                        Here is another Bruce Springsteen song related to Vietnam that I like, but written from the point of the wife back home.

                                        "A Good Man is Hard To Find"

                                        Link to video

                                        I think Bruce Springsteen is one of my favorite US artists.

                                        There is a famous Taiwan artist whom I also like called Wu Bai, who is called the Bruce Springsteen of Taiwan for his storytelling songs and long, high energy live shows. He was one of the first big modern artists to sing in Taiwanese and become popular (though he also sings in Mandarin Chinese also).

                                        WuBai

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                                          Early Elvis was pretty good for a white guy. Later Elvis was frequently just plain embarrassing.

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Born in the USA:

                                          I never understood the appeal of Springsteen.

                                          Elvis never did much for me. I could appreciate his talent, his appeal, in an academic sort of way, but he never really moved me. Whereas I got Springsteen -- his drive, his un-slickness, his passion.

                                          Can't explain it exactly.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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