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Born in the USA

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #2

    Sure. It's not a pro-American song. If anything it would be condemned for not being quite woke enough.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • 89th8 Online
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      89th
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      To be honest, I don’t really know the lyrics. I just had the “this is anti immigrant!” reaction in my head, if it was released today.

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      • 89th8 Online
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        89th
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        #4

        Just read the lyrics, interesting.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #5

          Most people can't understand what Springsteen is singing....

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Mr. Springsteen hates, hates, hates, HATES Mr. Trump.

            Mr. Springsteen has the serious TDS.

            Mr. Springsteen can say whatever he wants and he will be loved by all.

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            • MikM Offline
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              #7

              He could shoot people on Fifth Avenue and still be loved.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • 89th8 89th

                Bruce Springsteen’s song just came on the radio, and I had a thought, could you imagine this being released today?

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                Aqua Letifer
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                @89th said in Born in the USA:

                Bruce Springsteen’s song just came on the radio, and I had a thought, could you imagine this being released today?

                Would be fun to watch. People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @89th said in Born in the USA:

                  Bruce Springsteen’s song just came on the radio, and I had a thought, could you imagine this being released today?

                  Would be fun to watch. People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

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                  Catseye3
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Born in the USA:

                  People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

                  Luv that song. Feel like I shouldn't cuz of letting down the sisterhood, but wotthehell, cool is cool.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Born in the USA:

                    People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

                    Luv that song. Feel like I shouldn't cuz of letting down the sisterhood, but wotthehell, cool is cool.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    @Catseye3 said in Born in the USA:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Born in the USA:

                    People would have collective aneurisms over "Money for Nothing."

                    Luv that song. Feel like I shouldn't cuz of letting down the sisterhood, but wotthehell, cool is cool.

                    Probably the best example I think of for illustrating how rests breathe life into a guitar riff.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      Read an interesting story about the song. It was wrote to be a much more "down" song, but when the album was produced, they wanted a more "big arena" sound, so he recorded it like that. But it was originally written to have a depressed feel to it.

                      Link to video

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        #12

                        He's from New Jersey.

                        He has a right to be depressed.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          He's from New Jersey.

                          He has a right to be depressed.

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                          taiwan_girl
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                          @Jolly LOL

                          A friend from Delaware told me that their state motto was:

                          "At least we are not New Jersey!"

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                            @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

                            I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                            Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

                            The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

                            Link to video

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

                              I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                              Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

                              The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

                              Link to video

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                              @George-K Interesting!!! Thanks.

                              FYI, lyrics for the Born in the USA

                              **Born down in a dead man town
                              The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
                              You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
                              Till you spend half your life just covering up

                              Born in the U. S. A, I was born in the U. S. A
                              I was born in the U. S. A, born in the U. S. A

                              Got in a little hometown jam
                              So they put a rifle in my hand
                              Sent me off to a foreign land
                              To go and kill the yellow man

                              Born in the U. S. A...

                              Come back home to the refinery
                              Hiring man said son if it was up to me
                              Went down to see my V. A. Man
                              He said son, don't you understand

                              I had a brother at Khe Sahn
                              Fighting off the Viet Cong
                              They're still there, he's all gone

                              He had a woman he loved in Saigon
                              I got a picture of him in her arms now

                              Down in the shadow of the penitentiary
                              Out by the gas fires of the refinery
                              I'm ten years burning down the road
                              Nowhere to run aint got nowhere to go

                              Born in the U. S. A, I was born in the U. S. A
                              Born in the U. S. A, I'm a long gone daddy in the U. S. A
                              Born in the U. S. A., born in the U. S. A
                              Born in the U. S. A, I'm a cool rocking daddy in the U. S. A**

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                              • George KG George K

                                @taiwan_girl that's fascinating.

                                I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                                Are you familiar with the post-recording work that was done on "Sounds of Silence?" When Simon and Garfunkel recorded it, it was basically a folk song. The producer, whose name escapes me, added the electric guitar and drum track later.

                                The story may be apocryphal, but supposedly, S&G had no idea what had been done to their song until they heard it on the radio.

                                Link to video

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                                Aqua Letifer
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                                @George-K said in Born in the USA:

                                I still can't understand a word he's singing, other than "Born in the USA."

                                Link to video

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Loki
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                                  #17

                                  https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706566556/bruce-springsteen-born-in-the-usa-american-anthem

                                  An interpretation of what the song means.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    "The pride was in the chorus," Springsteen said to host Terry Gross in a 2005 interview. "In my songs, the spiritual part, the hope part, is in the choruses. The blues and your daily realities are in the details of the verses."

                                    Yep, pretty obvious if you look at his songs.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      Mik
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                                      Best summation of his work.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Best summation of his work.

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                                        Loki
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                                        @Mik said in Born in the USA:

                                        Best summation of his work.

                                        He never interested me enough to think about it too much. I respect his work and life achievement, it just doesn’t float my boat.

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                                          His music is populist garbage

                                          Education is extremely important.

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