"Gay not Queer"
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I don’t think it’s trolling. Copper has been consistent in his views from day one. I have not heard him call for any sort of punishment or isolation of the practitioners.
I do find it interesting that much of the gay community wishes to distance itself from people they view with the same disdain they were once viewed with and fought against for decades.
Drag is a centuries, maybe millennia, old entertainment, but I think it should be for adults, not children.
I myself have great disdain for the transsexual fantasies being sold to our children, and with those who wish to normalize pedophilia.
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Perverts?
Interesting characterization. When I was a lad, that's the category in which the general public viewed homosexuals. Over time, the public has become much more accepting. Personally, I don't think it's a good lifestyle decision, but it's their life and y'all live it as y'all see fit.
But I don't see it as a societal norm that should be celebrated or promoted.
The problem has come from people in that community accepting and vigorously promoting more and more destructive lifestyles that aren't good for society. I think that anything that undermines a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is bad for society. I think the normalization of transvestites is bad for society. I think the vociferous and open recruitment of young people to view homosexuals and lesbians as just another societal norm is harmful to society. I think the coercion of young people to become gay is bad for society.
And I think the current gender-fluid movement and drive to medically intervene into what constitutes male and female in children and teenagers is beyond perversion, I think it criminal and worthy of time in prison. The movement and mass hysteria are bad for society, with horrific, irreversible consequences for the individual.
We've come a very long way, in a very short time, from "Live and let live".
@Jolly said in "Gay not Queer":
but it's their life and y'all live it as y'all see fit.
I am the same. I think (at least in my mind) that I am one of the most non-judgmental people. People are different. That is what makes the world interesting.
But I don't see ....... .......... that should be celebrated or promoted.
I (mostly) agree with it. I don't want to see two heterosexual people walking almost naked down the street or almost having sex in public. I don't want to see two homosexual people doing it either.
I remember way back that I attended the Gay Pride parade in Chicago. Some of the costumes, attire, etc. were kind of embarrassing for me to see.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
as I'm sure others here have, and I get sick of the bullshit.
When others have taken a topic more seriously than you because they have personal experience with it and you don't, you've found their reaction funny.
@Aqua-Letifer said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
as I'm sure others here have, and I get sick of the bullshit.
When others have taken a topic more seriously than you because they have personal experience with it and you don't, you've found their reaction funny.
Yeah, I'm imperfect. Shock horror.
However, I do at least try to be humorous. I know I don't always succeed. Do you think what people write about gays being disgusting is intended to be funny?
I was only joking
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A transgender cat killer has been found guilty of murdering a stranger on his way home.
Scarlet Blake, 26, killed Jorge Carreno, 30, in July 2021 by hitting him in the back of the head with a vodka bottle before strangling him and pushing him into the River Cherwell where he drowned, Oxford Crown Court heard.
The court heard how Blake had killed a cat four months before the murder, placing the animal in a blender.
Prosecutors said Blake, who denied murder, had an “extreme interest in death and in harm” and got sexual gratification from violence and killings.
As he summed up the facts on Thursday, Judge Chamberlain told the jury: “You know the defendant is a transgender woman - in other words someone who was identified as male at birth and then transitioned to live as a woman.
“The fact she is trans on its own has no particular relevance to this case. It doesn’t make it any more or less likely that she is guilty of the offence with which she is charged.”
Education is extremely important.
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@Jolly said in "Gay not Queer":
We've come a very long way, in a very short time, from "Live and let live".
I haven't. That's how I feel about it.
The fact that there are activists pushing a harmful agenda is one thing. Demonizing homosexuals en masse as 'perverts' is something else. Obviously, Copper is trolling for attention when he does this, and I'm probably giving it to him by complaining about it, but I've got friends and loved ones who are gay, as I'm sure others here have, and I get sick of the bullshit.
I think that anything that undermines a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is bad for society.
And expecting homosexuals to have a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is just plain dumb. You clearly don't want them to marry one another. You'd rather they just hide in the background so we don't have to think about them?
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
Demonizing homosexuals en masse as 'perverts' is something else.
The word was invented to identify the practice that identifies one as a homosexual.
The word is fine, demonizing the word doesn't change the meaning.
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Is it really so obvious that people who feel compelled to change their sex, aren't suffering from a mental malady? Or is that just a bit of cultural programming that people parrot because it's considered evil not to parrot it?
Of course that's not to say most transgender people are anti-social in any way. Most psycopaths aren't even anti-social in their behavior. Most mentally ill people are not anti-social.
But then, some mentally ill people engage in death threats over the internet against courageous truth tellers and reporters of the most crucial issues of our time. The mental illness must be admitted as a factor.
Education is extremely important.
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A transgender cat killer has been found guilty of murdering a stranger on his way home.
Scarlet Blake, 26, killed Jorge Carreno, 30, in July 2021 by hitting him in the back of the head with a vodka bottle before strangling him and pushing him into the River Cherwell where he drowned, Oxford Crown Court heard.
The court heard how Blake had killed a cat four months before the murder, placing the animal in a blender.
Prosecutors said Blake, who denied murder, had an “extreme interest in death and in harm” and got sexual gratification from violence and killings.
As he summed up the facts on Thursday, Judge Chamberlain told the jury: “You know the defendant is a transgender woman - in other words someone who was identified as male at birth and then transitioned to live as a woman.
“The fact she is trans on its own has no particular relevance to this case. It doesn’t make it any more or less likely that she is guilty of the offence with which she is charged.”
@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
A transgender cat killer has been found guilty of murdering a stranger on his way home.
On average, Americans murder 4 times as many people as British people. I'm not sure whether those statistics also apply to transgender Americans, but clearly I'm a lot less of a threat than you are.
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@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
A transgender cat killer has been found guilty of murdering a stranger on his way home.
On average, Americans murder 4 times as many people as British people. I'm not sure whether those statistics also apply to transgender Americans, but clearly I'm a lot less of a threat than you are.
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
A transgender cat killer has been found guilty of murdering a stranger on his way home.
On average, Americans murder 4 times as many people as British people. I'm not sure whether those statistics also apply to transgender Americans, but clearly I'm a lot less of a threat than you are.
We probably don't want to dive into that statistic too deeply, lest we encounter yet another topic upon which people who look a certain way are not allowed to opine.
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Is it really so obvious that people who feel compelled to change their sex, aren't suffering from a mental malady? Or is that just a bit of cultural programming that people parrot because it's considered evil not to parrot it?
Of course that's not to say most transgender people are anti-social in any way. Most psycopaths aren't even anti-social in their behavior. Most mentally ill people are not anti-social.
But then, some mentally ill people engage in death threats over the internet against courageous truth tellers and reporters of the most crucial issues of our time. The mental illness must be admitted as a factor.
@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
s it really so obvious that people who feel compelled to change their sex, aren't suffering from a mental malady?
Roughly 20% of the population suffer from some form of mental illness. 5% suffer from severe mental illness.
I'd guess the actual numbers are quite a bit higher, since so much goes unreported or undiagnosed.
Of course, we can do statistics all day long, but mental issues aren't exactly uncommon.
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@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
s it really so obvious that people who feel compelled to change their sex, aren't suffering from a mental malady?
Roughly 20% of the population suffer from some form of mental illness. 5% suffer from severe mental illness.
I'd guess the actual numbers are quite a bit higher, since so much goes unreported or undiagnosed.
Of course, we can do statistics all day long, but mental issues aren't exactly uncommon.
@Doctor-Phibes That's an interesting statistic. I wonder what it really consists of. Is it a true mental illness like bipolar, etc, or is it just that they are not the ideal supermensch who is well adjusted to every facet of life, internal and social?
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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@Jolly said in "Gay not Queer":
We've come a very long way, in a very short time, from "Live and let live".
I haven't. That's how I feel about it.
The fact that there are activists pushing a harmful agenda is one thing. Demonizing homosexuals en masse as 'perverts' is something else. Obviously, Copper is trolling for attention when he does this, and I'm probably giving it to him by complaining about it, but I've got friends and loved ones who are gay, as I'm sure others here have, and I get sick of the bullshit.
I think that anything that undermines a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is bad for society.
And expecting homosexuals to have a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is just plain dumb. You clearly don't want them to marry one another. You'd rather they just hide in the background so we don't have to think about them?
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
And expecting homosexuals to have a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is just plain dumb. You clearly don't want them to marry one another. You'd rather they just hide in the background so we don't have to think about them?
No, I've been a pretty consistent opponent of gay marriage. I also am opposed to polygamy or anything besides one man/one woman. I'm okay with domestic partnerships.
I also don't care for homosexual marriage and kids. Kids have minds of mush and I've seen too many seriously screwed up in the head by being raised in a gay household. Not that there aren't some pretty screwed up heterosexual households, but don't let the strive for equality in all things screw up what is best.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@Aqua-Letifer said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
as I'm sure others here have, and I get sick of the bullshit.
When others have taken a topic more seriously than you because they have personal experience with it and you don't, you've found their reaction funny.
Yeah, I'm imperfect. Shock horror.
However, I do at least try to be humorous. I know I don't always succeed. Do you think what people write about gays being disgusting is intended to be funny?
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
@Aqua-Letifer said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
as I'm sure others here have, and I get sick of the bullshit.
When others have taken a topic more seriously than you because they have personal experience with it and you don't, you've found their reaction funny.
Yeah, I'm imperfect. Shock horror.
However, I do at least try to be humorous. I know I don't always succeed. Do you think what people write about gays being disgusting is intended to be funny?
No, I don't think it was intended to be funny, nor do I find it funny. I find it backward and ridiculous.
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@Doctor-Phibes That's an interesting statistic. I wonder what it really consists of. Is it a true mental illness like bipolar, etc, or is it just that they are not the ideal supermensch who is well adjusted to every facet of life, internal and social?
@Mik said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes That's an interesting statistic. I wonder what it really consists of. Is it a true mental illness like bipolar, etc, or is it just that they are not the ideal supermensch who is well adjusted to every facet of life, internal and social?
Like everything, bipolar can vary. There's bipolar I and II, which are different diagnoses - bipolar II can be misdiagnosed as depression. Then you've got anxiety, depression, and all the rest of it.
Just based on my own life, I'm fairly confident that more of the people we don't know intimately suffer from this stuff than we realise.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
And expecting homosexuals to have a monogamous, heterosexual marriage is just plain dumb. You clearly don't want them to marry one another. You'd rather they just hide in the background so we don't have to think about them?
No, I've been a pretty consistent opponent of gay marriage. I also am opposed to polygamy or anything besides one man/one woman. I'm okay with domestic partnerships.
I also don't care for homosexual marriage and kids. Kids have minds of mush and I've seen too many seriously screwed up in the head by being raised in a gay household. Not that there aren't some pretty screwed up heterosexual households, but don't let the strive for equality in all things screw up what is best.
@Jolly said in "Gay not Queer":
I also don't care for homosexual marriage and kids. Kids have minds of mush and I've seen too many seriously screwed up in the head by being raised in a gay household. Not that there aren't some pretty screwed up heterosexual households, but don't let the strive for equality in all things screw up what is best.
I completely disagree with this. As my boss likes to say, perfection is the enemy of good enough. Plenty of gay couples are more than capable of providing a positive and loving home environment which can be significantly better than the alternatives. Would you prefer the state to raise them? People who are proven to be incapable? Which group should we write off next -people who play violent computer games? People who have anger management issues? Heavy drinkers? Gun owners?
Nobody is perfect with the possible exception of Jesus of Nazareth, and he didn't have any kids which is possibly why he maintained his 100% score.
I was only joking
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I worked with a gay man who was married to another man who had custody of his two teenage daughters from his previous marriage to a woman. The girls were totally fine with the arrangement and much preferred living with their homosexual parents rather than spend any length of time with their biological mother. I dropped by to say hello last month and both girls are now in university and have hetero boyfriends. They are doing very well.
I am not aware of any perverts among anyone in the family, although I can’t speak for the biological mother as I never met her.
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@Doctor-Phibes I’ve been the target of death threats for my reporting here.
@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes I’ve been the target of death threats for my reporting here.
Your wife saying “get off your phone or I’ll kill you” doesn’t count, oh brave journalist.
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@Jolly said in "Gay not Queer":
I also don't care for homosexual marriage and kids. Kids have minds of mush and I've seen too many seriously screwed up in the head by being raised in a gay household. Not that there aren't some pretty screwed up heterosexual households, but don't let the strive for equality in all things screw up what is best.
I completely disagree with this. As my boss likes to say, perfection is the enemy of good enough. Plenty of gay couples are more than capable of providing a positive and loving home environment which can be significantly better than the alternatives. Would you prefer the state to raise them? People who are proven to be incapable? Which group should we write off next -people who play violent computer games? People who have anger management issues? Heavy drinkers? Gun owners?
Nobody is perfect with the possible exception of Jesus of Nazareth, and he didn't have any kids which is possibly why he maintained his 100% score.
@Doctor-Phibes said in "Gay not Queer":
Plenty of gay couples are more than capable of providing a positive and loving home environment which can be significantly better than the alternatives.
I consider heterosexual to be the norm and superior to homosexual when it comes to sexuality and life. I also think children have minds of mush and are mentally malleable.
Much like the transgender fad of today, people do have a bit of sliding scale on sexuality. I think persuasion, either overt or covert, can slide positions on the scale, especially with those who are unsure, which is especially true during puberty and the later teens.
Classically, the population is less than three percent (usually closer to one percent) gay. Today, 20% of Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ.
That's insane, for whatever reason.
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@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes I’ve been the target of death threats for my reporting here.
Your wife saying “get off your phone or I’ll kill you” doesn’t count, oh brave journalist.
@89th said in "Gay not Queer":
@Horace said in "Gay not Queer":
@Doctor-Phibes I’ve been the target of death threats for my reporting here.
Your wife saying “get off your phone or I’ll kill you” doesn’t count, oh brave journalist.
I'd assumed the death threats were people threatening to kill themselves if he didn't shut up
